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Ford Ranger, frame rust recall?

Old Nov 16, 2009
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Ford Ranger, frame rust recall?

Any one who has a rusted, rotted frame on there Ranger should fill out the complaint form of the ODI (Office of Defects Investigation of the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration)....it's quick and easy.
They would especially like to hear from people that had there rear bumper (or spare tire) fall off while driving....or the rear spring shackle, bracket rusting, falling off.

Going to your dealer or writing Ford is a waist of time....the ODI is the place to go.


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The Ford Ranger frames are just as bad (or worse) than the Toyota ones that were recalled (Toyota was made to replace the frames, or buy back the trucks). These trucks are from 1995 to 2000 and past.
If you are steaming mad over the rear of your frame completely rusting away, while the rest of the truck is in beautiful condition, please fill out the complaint form.
 

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Did you really need 2 threads?

https://www.ranger-forums.com/forum2...-buy-back.html
 
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I started the second thread with the "Ford Ranger" heading so people who Google will see it....PLEASE leave the heading.

Feel free to combine the threads, or delete the old one.
 
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so if you fill out a complaint what happens?
 
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Is this like a national emergency that even googlers need to see?
 
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Originally Posted by 97blueranger
so if you fill out a complaint what happens?
If the IDO get enough complaints they can 'recall' the frames, for safety reasons after an investigation....it took 20 complaints to recall 750,000 Toyota frames.
On another site someone stated that Ford Ranger and Toyota frames were made by the same manufacturer/supplier, but I do not know for sure?
 
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i was looking at threads on here and see that there are a couple trucks on here that have frame problems.
 
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Okie dokie. Ive never heard of rust problems if the vehicle was taken care of. How could it be Ford's fault? Rust is caused from being out in the elements. I could be wrong though...
 
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Originally Posted by yellow rhino
Is this like a national emergency that even googlers need to see?
Kind of....would you like to be following a Ranger on the highway and have it's rear bumper or spare tire fall off in front of you?

Google it yourself and you will see that a whole bunch of people have beautiful running Rangers that have rear bumpers that are ready to, or actually fell off! Spare tires too....
Also, people are having there Rangers fail inspection for rusted rear frames....inspectors here JUMP on your rear bumper to test it!
 
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I don't see how Ford could be held responsible. I bet if those owners actually took care of their trucks it wouldn't have happened. And I call BS on it only taking 20 complaints to Toyota to recall 750,000.
 
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how was Toyota responsible then?
 
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How could it be Ford's fault?
Its not.

Why not just blame the State for putting salt on their roads while your at it.
 
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Hi, folks, your friends at Toyota Motor Sales, here. We thought that we should bring to your attention a customer support program we’re announcing today to extend warranty coverage on the frames of Toyota Tacoma trucks from model year 1995 through 2000.

We’ve received reports that on a small number of Tacomas, frames may develop corrosion that goes beyond the normal surface rust that’s commonly found on metal after years of exposure. This corrosion may extend to actual perforation of the frame’s metal.

In response, we’re extending the rust-perforation warranty covering these trucks for a period of 15 years from each vehicle’s original date of purchase, with no mileage limitation, for corrosion that results in perforation of the vehicle’s frame material.

If you own one of these vehicles and you find that its frame may exhibit excessive corrosion to the point of metal perforation, we suggest that you take it to a Toyota dealership when you receive your notification letter so that it can be inspected. If inspection confirms frame corrosion damage perforation, we will either repair the vehicle or repurchase it.

Keep in mind that this is not a recall. Rather, it’s an example of our commitment to our owners.
Seems like its something they did not because they had to but to keep it out of the press and all that fiasco. Thats a good company!
 
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Toyotas were recalled due to a design defect that allowed debris to accumulate into certain areas on the frame and this in turn allowed the rust to form. There are many examples of Toyotas that show a vulnerable spot between the cab and frame rotting out and causing catastrophic failure. Something more akin to the truck breaking in half between the cab and bed, and not something like the bumper tweaking.


I as I said in the other thread of yours, its not a Ranger problem, its a MA problem.
 
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Okie dokie. Ive never heard of rust problems if the vehicle was taken care of. How could it be Ford's fault? Rust is caused from being out in the elements. I could be wrong though...
I am not completely sure, but some of these frames got little (or no) paint on them and they simply rust away and literally fall/pull apart like wet plywood.
As I have said elsewhere, I have never had this kind of frame problem before, even with vehicles with twice the mileage!

And by the way, it is NOT a "maintenance" problem....there is not a spot of rust on the body of my truck, yet the frame rots away!
 

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how was Toyota responsible then?
toyota is responsible becuase theres rusted inside the boxed part of the frame where the owner is unable to wash the salt/mud/ dirt off. ive seen it so bad that the fame would hinge between the cab and box when you hit the gas. this wont got far with the rangers becuase its not caused by poor quility steel or bad engineering, its caused by lack of maintinence and care. ive had 4 rangers, 2 off wich had over 200,000 miles and one with 140,000 and not one had frame rot issues. all of them were well cared for and washed often in the winter.
 
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yeah rust isnt fords fault, frames rusting/rotting away id due to how well you take care of it and probaly depends on where you live to
 
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I don't see how Ford could be held responsible. I bet if those owners actually took care of their trucks it wouldn't have happened. And I call BS on it only taking 20 complaints to Toyota to recall 750,000.
Go to the NHTSA sight yourself....they say it was 20 complaints. I believe they were incidents in which the spare tire fell off while driving, causing an accident.
While the entire rear bumper falls off Rangers!


And NO, not all Ranger frames rot away....you may have a good one. But if you got a bad one there is nothing you could have done to keep it from ROTTING....other that scraping it down and re-painting it every year.
 

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Originally Posted by 01_ranger_4x4
toyota is responsible becuase theres rusted inside the boxed part of the frame where the owner is unable to wash the salt/mud/ dirt off. ive seen it so bad that the fame would hinge between the cab and box when you hit the gas. this wont got far with the rangers becuase its not caused by poor quility steel or bad engineering, its caused by lack of maintinence and care. ive had 4 rangers, 2 off wich had over 200,000 miles and one with 140,000 and not one had frame rot issues. all of them were well cared for and washed often in the winter.


+1. as i said. Its a design flaw in the frame that allowed bad stuff to accumulate. Being from Michigan, i believe you when you say its lasted lol. ive been to Michigan... not many vehicles over 15 years old of any kind still alive out there.
 
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Originally Posted by 01_ranger_4x4
toyota is responsible becuase theres rusted inside the boxed part of the frame where the owner is unable to wash the salt/mud/ dirt off. ive seen it so bad that the fame would hinge between the cab and box when you hit the gas. this wont got far with the rangers becuase its not caused by poor quility steel or bad engineering, its caused by lack of maintinence and care. ive had 4 rangers, 2 off wich had over 200,000 miles and one with 140,000 and not one had frame rot issues. all of them were well cared for and washed often in the winter.
i forgot the Toyota's had boxed frames. but my frame has 271k on it and has been in pa since the day it was bought new. only have one spot in my frame that is bad that i know of and its at the very back and very small and going to get fixed this weekend. also the bed is coming off to check the rest of the frame. but i dont think mine is that bad. just surface rust that needs knocked off and painted over with some chassis saver and it will be good for a long time
 
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My rear shackles and spring hangars are almost gone. I paint the frame with rust converter every year. The shock mounts area seems to be the most vulnerable to cracks... Otherwise my truck is in great condition, the rusty frame is going to be what kills it. I do not have the time, tools or money to do a frame off restoration. I wish people would forget about salt and learn to drive.

What ever I buy next though will be thoroughly rust proofed and have one of those electronic rust prevention devices.
 
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There is a problem with both Toyota and Ford frames in heavy winter salt areas of the country. Fifteen years of rust occur in just four or five years on some vehicles.Toyota did recall their vehicles, Ford will not. If you have a severely rusted Ranger, you should fill out the complaint form. If your Ranger is ok, thank your luck, winter maintenance procedures or both, but don't chide someone for filing a complaint for a real concern.....it's how things improve in the automotive business.
 
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Its not.

Why not just blame the State for putting salt on their roads while your at it.
MA does not use "salt".
 
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Go to the NHTSA sight yourself....they say it was 20 complaints. I believe they were incidents in which the spare tire fell off while driving, causing an accident.
While the entire rear bumper falls off Rangers!


And NO, not all Ranger frames rot away....you may have a good one. But if you got a bad one there is nothing you could have done to keep it from ROTTING....other that scraping it down and re-painting is every year.
I scrape mine down and repaint it every year.
I can totally see a spare tire falling off. My spare tire winch looks awful, the tire carrier is thin to start with and it is extremely difficult to clean the top of it short of removing the bed.
 
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Originally Posted by bb1
MA does not use "salt".
I know western MA still does, they use a salt/sand mix. Actually its more like a salt/dirt mix.
 
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