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Ford recall includes Ranger, Explorer, etc.

I dont have much info on this. It sounds like there is going to be a recall for defective speed control cancel switches on Rangers and several other Ford products. This is the underhood electrical switch on the front of the master cylinder.

List of possible affected vehicles:
http://www.wxyz.com/wxyz/ys_investig...00.html#ranger

More info:
http://www.wxyz.com/wxyz/ys_investig...583105,00.html
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I'm just waitin on the mail about this...

Other then that I don't care...
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scary!


good find bobby.
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um when will we know the years and models I wonder because I WILL NOT get a letter on this I just need to know. and BOY will a freak out the dealer with my truck HAHAHA.
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ya'll didn't know about this?

very big news around these parts... been hearing about it non-stop for three or four weeks...

ever since the houston 10 o clock news covered it, everyone went insane down here...

i can't use cruise control on teh way to florida, cuz my buddy's expedition had it's cruise control removed.. :(
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From WXYZ News:

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Hereís the problem:

Youíre driving along, turn on your cruise control and set the speed, but then somebody pulls in front of you and you need it to disengage, so you tap your brake pedal. Thatís when the switch is designed to switch the cruise control off.

You see, when you touch the brake, it ends a surge of brake fluid through the switch to the electrical connection up top which then instantly shuts off your cruise control. But, says fire investigator Jeff Morrill, who has examined several fires caused by the switch, "The switch itself has an inherent failure. It allows hydraulic fluid to get into the cavity where the electronic or the electrical portions of the switch are."

The main problem, he says, is the failure of the seals inside the switch to keep fluid from making contact with electrical points when itís not supposed to.

Morrill explains, "Thatís the first part of the problem is the leakage. If you had no leakage, then youíd have no contamination, youíd have no problem. The second part of that is when the leakage does get in and it does contaminate the electrical portions of the switch, then you also have constant 12 volt power, even when the vehicle is turned off.
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ya'll didn't know about this?

very big news around these parts... been hearing about it non-stop for three or four weeks...

ever since the houston 10 o clock news covered it, everyone went insane down here...

i can't use cruise control on teh way to florida, cuz my buddy's expedition had it's cruise control removed.. :(
I had heard there was a possible problem with it but this is the first I've heard of a recall.
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Yeah I saw all the reports about that, but i thought it only affected F-150s and Expeditions?
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lots of people around here are already having that part removed by the dealer, and getting a new whatever installed later on..
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No cruise, no problem :)
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lots of people around here are already having that part removed by the dealer, and getting a new whatever installed later on..
I noticed that the 2005's are not on the list. I wonder if they already have the updated version?
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WOW am dumb................I dont have cruise control HAHA....
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The switch is common across several vehicle lines and years. In the article in the link above, it sounds like NHTSA is letting Ford roll it out in stages:

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The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration allowed Ford to limit its first recall to just some models Ford said were burning more than others, and the automaker said it couldnít pinpoint why some switches failed and others didnít.
I just went outside and parked my truck farther from the house...
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The switch is common across several vehicle lines and years. In the article in the link above, it sounds like NHTSA is letting Ford roll it out in stages:



I just went outside and parked my truck farther from the house...
Bob I think you have a higher chance of your mods making the truck catch fire then your cruise control....
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Bob I think you have a higher chance of your mods making the truck catch fire then your cruise control....
Oooo, that hurts!
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Oooo, that hurts!
U didnt catch my drift I was meaning its just about null...
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I just hope all the dodge/chevy guys don't catch wind of this at school. I'll be getting Hell forever from this one...
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Well i looked at that list and my vin has an E in it but i am not worried about it i dont have crusie control
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i hardly use cruise control and if i am using it i dont hit the brakes to disengage it (usually)
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I always use cruise control
This Ford unit does not have a cancel or disengage button
I don't like it because you always have to tap the brake or turn it off to go off cruise
I prefer to coast down off cruise and in the Ranger you can not unless you turn it off completely
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well ****...its almost every ford built after 1993...mine, my dads, my cuz's and sarahs are all affected...so what do we do with older trucks? take it to a dealer? im sure they'll love a sraight pipe 300 comin lol
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I use cruise all the time. You can disengage by turning it off if you don't want to use the brake. I'm more worried about drivers in FL than my cc.....I'll let God handle this one.
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No cruise, no problem :)
although i really wish i had it sometimes
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well ****...its almost every ford built after 1993...mine, my dads, my cuz's and sarahs are all affected...so what do we do with older trucks? take it to a dealer? im sure they'll love a sraight pipe 300 comin lol
I have had a chance to go over the information again and have these thoughts:

According to the WXYZ News exposť, a key ingredient for a possible underhood fire is a wire that is hot, even with the key off, powering a Deactivation Switch that has been contaminated by brake fluid.

I have 5 different Ford Wiring Manuals (4 Ranger and 1 Explorer) and these show 4 different wiring methods for the cruise control Deactivation Switch! Hereís how I read the schematics:

1997 Ranger: NC, hot with key on, 7.5A circuit, shared with SC servo power
1999 Explorer: NC, hot at all times, independent 20A circuit
2002 Ranger: NO, hot at all times, 7.5A circuit, shared with brake pedal input
2003 Ranger: NC, hot with key on, independent 7.5A circuit
2004 Ranger: NC, hot with key on, independent 7.5A circuit

Where NC = normally closed switch, NO = normally open switch



What can we conclude from this? Nothing definite but I think the WXYZ News piece goes too far by implying that the recall should apply to its entire list of 8,000,000 Ford vehicles from 12 years.

It appears to me that some of the listed years and models do not meet the requirements for an unattended underhood fire.

In particular, on the 2003~2004 Rangers, the suspect circuit is not even powered when the vehicle is off. My GUESS would be that 2003-on is not affected by this problem but thatís just a guess.

The 1999 Explorer and 2002 Ranger look like they might POSSIBLY have the problem type circuit since they have voltage to the Deactivation Switch even when the key is off. This probably applies to other prior years/models but I only have a few Wiring Manuals Ė not nearly enough to say which vehicles will be recalled.
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No cruise, no problem :)
That may not be true for all Rangers. Many also use the Deactivation Switch as an input to the ABS system, so you may have it even if you don't have cruise. Just look at the front of the master cylinder for a screw-in switch with a 2-wire electrical connector. That's the Deactivation Switch.
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