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Old 03-29-2005
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Motor let go HARD

Coming home from the river, at 5am I was about 100 miles out. Palm Springs area, cruising along with the boat in tow about 65 mph. I hear a slight "ping" like noise and about 5 seconds later... BAM. This is what happened...



Thats the driver's left side of the oil pan and you can see the big end of the rod. I have dug out a few small pieces of the upper rod and small pieces of aluminum which appear to be the skirt and wrist pin cradle... It also punched some smaller holes in the front side of the oil pan. Looks like I will be dropping a new motor in it.
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dang...and it's an '04! hard to believe.
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32,980 miles too. Ford won't cover it under warranty either, they already denied me when both heads cracked at 18,000 miles because of my airbox.
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Damn thats sucks....

So what are you going to do how...
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32,980 miles too. Ford won't cover it under warranty either, they already denied me when both heads cracked at 18,000 miles because of my airbox.

You need to fight that HARD, make them prove it, they can't just say no.
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*cough* 5.0! *cough*

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Holy ****! Would never have thought an engine that new would throw a rod... All I can say is good luck with a new engine.
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*cough* 5.0! *cough*
seriously that really sucks and i would not let them get away with not paying for that under warranty
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aw ****.. that sucks greg...
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Anyone have suggestions or experience with taking legal action? I don't know what to do. Last time, when the dealer denied my warranty, I called Corp. Ford and they told me the dealer's word is gold and I am wrong. I then spent 1500 bucks to fix it, and found out that the dealer mis-diagnosed it in the first place. They wanted 1200 bucks just to take it apart and find out whats wrong with it.
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fight! fight!
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im only 16, but i wish life was easy going like back in the day where a company admits fault when their engine busts apart after one year of wear and tear. my dad also said shops used to patch tires for free. now everything is all legal and expensive. that sucks that the dealer is like that.
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My suggestion. If you have a track record of Misery with the dealership..

Seeing as you were towing a boat, with a 3.0, it sounds like you would want more ' umph ' to begin with. From listening to TremorJohns 3.0popcorn pinging machine, and hearing of a few people that have had 3.0's go boom.. They don't have good fuel econemy compared to their big brother ( 4.0 SOHC ) .. Why not just fine a 4.0 and stuff it in? Its offered for the year, wouldn;t be an emissions issue as the suggested 5.0 swap ( I noticed your from cali, CARB is a wench! ) , and is probably CHEAPER ( if you can get a salvage vehical ) then paying someone to re-build your current engine.

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Its called the Magnuson Moss Warranty Act. In a nut shell, it states that your warranty cannot be voided because of an aftermarket part unless the problem can be directly attributed to that aftermarket part (ie your headlight wiring harness fries up and you put a bulb in there that is too powerful, thats going to get your warranty voided{just on the headlight harness though, not the whole truck voided} but say you put a KN Filter in and you stereo stops working. The dealer cant say because you put a KN in, your whole warranty is voided. That is illegal)

Basically your dealer needs to prove that you problems are caused by the filter, which they are not. You will win this in court because they will not be able to prove it. just mention these 2 things, Magnuson Moss Warranty Act and a Lawyer and your dealer should change there tone. It would even be worth the money to pay a lawyer to to right you a letter because it will cost much more the get your truck fixed.
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i wonder if you can still lemon law it with all the problems you have had with it...
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just mention these 2 things, Magnuson Moss Warranty Act and a Lawyer and your dealer should change there tone.
That would be my advise as well.
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dang that crazy...
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damn that sucks - like D said put in a 4.0
Ford will blame this on your MODS and the 33 inch tires
The rod/bearing failure probably goes back to your cracked head problems
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Litigation requires 2 consistent things. Money and Time. Even with expendatures aside, your still on foot, with your vehical in ' standby ' mode and your boat in your driveway/parkinglot/storage...

The Magnuson Law doesn't cover ALL mods. While lawyers bill by the hour and the Dealerships having a write-off for the incident ( Business expense ) , the purchaser is in limbo..

Find a salvage vehical and start grepping the 4.0 out of it and all related parts. I've grabbed everything needed for a 4.0 recently along with a good part of the front suspension in less then 3 hrs. That engine will be replacing a 3.0 in a friends truck this weekend. Was less then 500$, engine has all of 105 Odometer miles and its from a 2005.

People can debate all they wish, but if your pulling a boat, this would seem like the no-brainer thing to do.

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If I want to swap a 4.0 into it will I need a transmission adapter? How about the computer, will all of that need to be swapped out as well? Give me some more info on a 4L swap...
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Dont do it man, you'll have to change ur account name to "4literriceeater"

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A 4.0 Would give you more power, but it would require you put a lot more work in then just dropping in a 3.0.

Here is a 2003 3.0 with only 2k on it. This would be much easier then doing the conversion to a 4.0.

Its ends very soon.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33615

And another with only 1K on it..
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33615

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When it's stated "Ford denied the warranty previously" -- do you mean the FORD MOTOR COMPANY, or just the DEALER? There is an appeals process to Ford you can make on this -- the dealer is NOT the final decider of warranty claims.

Contact a newspaper if you can, and get a reporter to call the dealership about it if you know the guy. You should also go ahead and pay $50 to $75 to a lawyer to draft a letter of intent where the lawyer basically says he's been asked to represent you and asking for information on the claim. All this will make the dealer think hard, and possibly start to "get with the program".

So, to summarize:

1 Take it to FORD, not just the dealer
2. Get some attention to the issue from somewhere if possible
3. Have a lawyer contact the dealer about the claim
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If I want to swap a 4.0 into it will I need a transmission adapter? How about the computer, will all of that need to be swapped out as well? Give me some more info on a 4L swap...
I would like to state first, John has the voice of reason... I just have a heated garage and a NICE salvage yard to pick from.. as well as all the tools needed to do the job.

You would want everything from the engine compartment possible. A recent discovery when I picked up a set of torsion bars for a friend, John noted that he and I both had the SAME torsion bars ( code F ) . The front suspensions are more then likely the same ( outside of shocks ).

If you currently have a manual tranny, you would need the bellhousing. the 5m55 was used in both the 3 and 4 litre setups ( Wowak/Brian has the same tranny as I had stock ) .

You would want to grab the Y pipe and forward on the exhaust. I believe teh Last/larger Cat is teh same for the 3/4 litre ( Maybe Bob could chime in on that one ) . All the electronics, unbolt them from the firewall and grab the harness as well. The radiator, intake system and the brackets for the accessories as well. The power steering pumps and altenator should swap so long as your on the same year.

The real problem your going to run into is a minor one. The EGR. in 2003, some 4.0's didn't have them. They are simple to add. If you grab a local engine in Cali, it will more then likely already have it.. if not, I can mail you a full egr setup.

Its all factory parts and you should not have to fabricate anything. I don't know what insurance wrecks are going for in your area ( I'm sure it differs per state/area ) but I snagged the better half of a 2005 dirt cheap.. everything from the cab doors forward ( engine bay, front suspension, dash board [ bezel, gaugecluster], headlights.. ). Boneyards in NYS give wreckers 50-100$ per vehical. If you find something that has come in recently and hasnt sat, the yard will LOVE to double their money, especially if your doing the work.

A SOHC is not that heavy ( my opinion ) and if you have 2 strong people, you should be able ( with a picker ) to snag an engine without too many snags. I have banged up knees from my accident but a friend ( he's bigger then myself ) and I took off the hood and fenders, grabbed the engine by its exhaust manifolds and took it out with a pair of poles and a chain ( too snowy/icy to get a picker going ) .

It's time consuming, but ( again ) , if you can do the labor or have a mate that will help you, its more intimidating then difficult.

Hit me up on messenger, well talk.
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that sucks bad, but what the hell do you do to your truck!!!!!???? I have beaten the living s#*t out of my mustang with a 351, 12 pounds of boost and 150 big shot fogger kit with 134,288 miles now, and still haven't had any problems like that. I've toasted 3 t5 trannys though. now have viper t56, suppossedly near impossible to break! How often do you change your oil. hell my truck is at 112, something and I'm not exactly nice to it either.
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