NEW Ford Fiesta...The 65 mpg Ford the U.S. Can't Have
#51
Countless past threads and it's not just me, it's others as well. Everyone has a right to their opinion but no need to shove your thoughts down others throats and expect them to believe you 100%. Take your criticism elsewhere chunt.
#52
Ethanol isnt even big market, its a known fact that ethanol couldnt possibly sustain america, not to mention I dont even think theres an ethanol station in my town of 100k+.
for one, I am not a liberal commie. I am replying because I am tired of stupid bipartisan name calling and misinformation. two, being the liberal commie hater you seem to be, I would assume you claim to be a conservative. Wouldnt a conservative view of the free market use ethanol as an example of how the free market works itself out
for one, I am not a liberal commie. I am replying because I am tired of stupid bipartisan name calling and misinformation. two, being the liberal commie hater you seem to be, I would assume you claim to be a conservative. Wouldnt a conservative view of the free market use ethanol as an example of how the free market works itself out
No because the government subsidizes ethanol, the government inflates it for the sake of you tree humpers.
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The lib agenda also creates higher gas prices by constantly standing on the side of some mythical GLOBAL WARMING. Your people file lawsuit after lawsuit to stop new refineries, to stop exploration, and to stop the advancement of everything and this includes the human race. Your agenda puts a tree toad ahead of a human being; your agenda wants to protect a polar bear that doesn’t need protection because its numbers are the highest they have ever been.
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#55
Ive stated my beliefs, no where did I say, agree with me or I will KILLL YOU!!!
#56
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We are getting the Fiesta finally. but just not the Diesel one. I've heard there is a big push by the Big 3 and Toyota and Honda for the U.S. to adapt the Euro Encap crash test rating as well as emissions for cars sold in the U.S. it would save those company's millions and would mean that they wouldn't have to develop a different car for every country they are sold in. plus it would mean we would get a whole slew of cool diesel cars here stateside.
Very smart.
#57
I do, but i didnt care enough to jot it down. But anyways, I am not a lib, Ive said before. so dont call it "my people"
liberal agenda isnt perfect, I never said it was, but blaming car import issues on liberals doesnt make sense to me. Link why fords choice to not import the fiesta to the usa to a REAL consequence of liberal action.
I just dont see the reason.
liberal agenda isnt perfect, I never said it was, but blaming car import issues on liberals doesnt make sense to me. Link why fords choice to not import the fiesta to the usa to a REAL consequence of liberal action.
I just dont see the reason.
#58
Your an idiot, Shane has helped you so many times when your too lazy to search and you can't even take a joke. Douche
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#59
Go ahead...thread dig the ****. e-thug? how? Obviously you can't take a fuking hint that i was joking. ***, it's even right after my 'making fun of you' line for christ sake. jesus...you never learn dude....we went through this before. what? can't remember?
btw...i'm completely holding back on what i want to say in this reply.
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http://www.epa.gov/history/topics/epa/15c.htm
The EPA CLAIMS to be indy, but they are not.
http://www.epa.gov/history/org/origins/first.htm
The EPA's first ' movement ' or recognition happened in NYC when then Mayor John Lindsey closed part of the city ( Maybe Central Park? I can't remember all the details ) and had a hippy-love-fest for the environment where folk singers and such had a concert for a cause. At the same time, Congress and Nixon went about their daily routines.
Lindsey was a Liberal.
In todays world, your ' greens ' are 99.9% Liberals and vote in such rank and file.
obviously even today it is still ran by Republicans. One of these days you guys will realize that the democrats you despise so much are politically the same as modern republicans.
Before then, between 1986 and 1991, she served as a key aide to Senator Lawton Chiles and then-Senator Al Gore.
You were saying something about ' learn your history '?
The EPA is a Liberal ' Dagger '. It was originally a table-scrap under Nixons watch to try and win some people over. Its now a hatchet wielding animal to our financial prosperity.
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I like ethanol. I run it in my truck. I don't help contribute to the 700+ billion going overseas as local Ethanol is made with American Oil sources here in WNY.
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I agree with your view on how it looks tho.
#63
sausage boy is another way of calling someone a F a g. and that's 14 day ban material there bud. Same goes with putting down someone for their race, like you did with Gil for example.
Go ahead...thread dig the ****. e-thug? how? Obviously you can't take a fuking hint that i was joking. ***, it's even right after my 'making fun of you' line for christ sake. jesus...you never learn dude....we went through this before. what? can't remember?
btw...i'm completely holding back on what i want to say in this reply.
Go ahead...thread dig the ****. e-thug? how? Obviously you can't take a fuking hint that i was joking. ***, it's even right after my 'making fun of you' line for christ sake. jesus...you never learn dude....we went through this before. what? can't remember?
btw...i'm completely holding back on what i want to say in this reply.
E-thug? It's easy. I never stated I knew everything about auto mechanics or that I wasn't a newb in this field, that's why I'm here, to learn. No reason to point it out over and over again when you went through the same damn **** that I'm going through. Now that you got a confidence boost and your ego is much bigger then past years you seem to think you can put other newbs down. Quit being an e-thug and if you got something personal to say to me then PM me and keep it off the threads so **** like this don't happen. Or are you too illiterate to figure that out?
If your holding something back, a PM is just a click away. Do you need help finding it?
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I've met Gil. Hes NO TREE HUGGER! Trust me when I say such. Hes into Muscle cars, Tossing things out of truck windows instead of in trashcans, Even smokes ( well.. he did then, dunno if he does now ).
#65
If anyone in SoCal area could point me to someone I would appreciate it.
That car kinda looks like a prius or whatever those are mixed with a scion toaster. lol
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Others can respond to the personal part of your message, I just wish to respond to this part.
Industry. The ' Cost of Industry '.
I don't blame fuel costs to ' whats made here ' and ' whats not '. Its a different argument. What I will say to keep on your asking of a ' reason '...
More and more of our industry leaves. Theres not much left.
It was said in that article, the cost to build a new plant.. It had some huge number ( more then all of us will achieve in our natural lives added-up for sure! ).
New Plants require costs in regards to Enviornmental Standards. Its similar and actually part of the reasoning why new oil rigs cannot be built or some of the older ones ' repaired '.
It makes our Nation look less friendly to invest into.
I don't blame fuel costs to ' whats made here ' and ' whats not '. Its a different argument. What I will say to keep on your asking of a ' reason '...
More and more of our industry leaves. Theres not much left.
It was said in that article, the cost to build a new plant.. It had some huge number ( more then all of us will achieve in our natural lives added-up for sure! ).
New Plants require costs in regards to Enviornmental Standards. Its similar and actually part of the reasoning why new oil rigs cannot be built or some of the older ones ' repaired '.
It makes our Nation look less friendly to invest into.
#67
Others can respond to the personal part of your message, I just wish to respond to this part.
Industry. The ' Cost of Industry '.
I don't blame fuel costs to ' whats made here ' and ' whats not '. Its a different argument. What I will say to keep on your asking of a ' reason '.
More and more of our industry leaves. Theres not much left.
It was said in that article, the cost to build a new plant.. It had some huge number ( more then all of us will achieve in our natural lives added-up for sure! ).
New Plants require costs in regards to Enviornmental Standards. Its similar and actually part of the reasoning why new oil rigs cannot be built or some of the older ones ' repaired '.
It makes our Nation look less friendly to invest into.
Industry. The ' Cost of Industry '.
I don't blame fuel costs to ' whats made here ' and ' whats not '. Its a different argument. What I will say to keep on your asking of a ' reason '.
More and more of our industry leaves. Theres not much left.
It was said in that article, the cost to build a new plant.. It had some huge number ( more then all of us will achieve in our natural lives added-up for sure! ).
New Plants require costs in regards to Enviornmental Standards. Its similar and actually part of the reasoning why new oil rigs cannot be built or some of the older ones ' repaired '.
It makes our Nation look less friendly to invest into.
#68
it was at the detroit autoshow. it was called something else. not the fiesta. i hope this one is way cooler then that piece of garbage that came out in the 90's. that car would rock if it had a high rev'in turbo'd 4 banger.
i've got pics on my laptop. i liked the fourdoor better.
i've got pics on my laptop. i liked the fourdoor better.
#70
Umm.. Kind-of/sort-of.
http://www.epa.gov/history/topics/epa/15c.htm
The EPA CLAIMS to be indy, but they are not.
http://www.epa.gov/history/org/origins/first.htm
The EPA's first ' movement ' or recognition happened in NYC when then Mayor John Lindsey closed part of the city ( Maybe Central Park? I can't remember all the details ) and had a hippy-love-fest for the environment where folk singers and such had a concert for a cause. At the same time, Congress and Nixon went about their daily routines.
Lindsey was a Liberal.
http://www.epa.gov/history/topics/epa/15c.htm
The EPA CLAIMS to be indy, but they are not.
http://www.epa.gov/history/org/origins/first.htm
The EPA's first ' movement ' or recognition happened in NYC when then Mayor John Lindsey closed part of the city ( Maybe Central Park? I can't remember all the details ) and had a hippy-love-fest for the environment where folk singers and such had a concert for a cause. At the same time, Congress and Nixon went about their daily routines.
Lindsey was a Liberal.
The EPA was personally founded by Nixon (Republican) and ran by William Ruckelshaus (Republican).
LOL. I don't mean to twist a dagger in your back, but Carol Browner is NO ' Republican '. She was appointed Administrator of the EPA by none other then William Jefferson Clinton in 1993.
Before then, between 1986 and 1991, she served as a key aide to Senator Lawton Chiles and then-Senator Al Gore.
You were saying something about ' learn your history '?
The EPA is a Liberal ' Dagger '. It was originally a table-scrap under Nixons watch to try and win some people over. Its now a hatchet wielding animal to our financial prosperity.
Before then, between 1986 and 1991, she served as a key aide to Senator Lawton Chiles and then-Senator Al Gore.
You were saying something about ' learn your history '?
The EPA is a Liberal ' Dagger '. It was originally a table-scrap under Nixons watch to try and win some people over. Its now a hatchet wielding animal to our financial prosperity.
The EPA still began as a Republican project, and has continued to mainly be a Republican project, and today is still ran by the Republicans.
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Ford's bringing the Fiesta here...just not the supurb mileage that the diesel gives because of the '07+ new standards we have here. Don't know the name of the CAFE or whatever...but yeah. Think of the AWESOME liberty that was here for like 2 years. Axed because it didn't meet the ultra low sulfar fuel requirement and the new EPA standards for diesels beginning the '07 model year. Why do we need to be so clean? What's better: ultra clean fuel hogging diesels or clean very fuel efficient diesels?
IMO...lighten up the standards on diesels. And bring that baby here[fiesta].
To all those concerned:
I was JOKING with the comment I posted about the member from Cali. Comment was followed by something like "I was just joking with that last line". Comment came because of a thread that this member made which was a duplicate that has been a current thread for the past 2 days....shoot, said thread had a reply(s) in it less than a half hour prior to new thread being made. He over-reacted to said joke/playing around. I reacted to the over-reaction.
IMO...lighten up the standards on diesels. And bring that baby here[fiesta].
To all those concerned:
I was JOKING with the comment I posted about the member from Cali. Comment was followed by something like "I was just joking with that last line". Comment came because of a thread that this member made which was a duplicate that has been a current thread for the past 2 days....shoot, said thread had a reply(s) in it less than a half hour prior to new thread being made. He over-reacted to said joke/playing around. I reacted to the over-reaction.
#75
"I just looked back at all your posts in the last month and I don't see anything even remotely wrong. I don't know what to tell you."
None of the mods can over-ride Christians ban and Christian has never contacted me, nor will reply to my PMs, so my guess is as good as yours.
I, and some mods of this forum, thought the same thing... I'm banned.