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Opinions on a GM/Ford merger?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060918/ap_on_bi_ge/gm_ford

I'm not sure how I feel about this. If it's good for domestic business, then so be it. But... does this mean no more ****-on-Chevy stickers?
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wow my two favorites
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all i have to say is that it will be an interesting ordeal if they decide to.
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its just talk. no info there that it would happen, just that it could.
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i highly doubt it will EVER happen.....that would be like Dell and Gateway merging....the 2 biggest competors in U.S. automakers will never be the same company, but they could make packs that would help boost both sales and slow the sales of foreign autos....
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They are currently not doing it.
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If I understand correctly, if they form an allience they would use some of the same parts in both Ford and GM for the two companies to save money. That would be a bit wierd to find a GM part in a Ford vehicle, or visa versa. However, if it works and keeps them around I won't be complaining.
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If I understand correctly, if they form an allience they would use some of the same parts in both Ford and GM for the two companies to save money. That would be a bit wierd to find a GM part in a Ford vehicle, or visa versa. However, if it works and keeps them around I won't be complaining.
i doubt it would be GM parts or Ford parts.....they would probably go to an independant parts company and have them manufacture parts for both automakers....ex: Auto Parts Plus will make all the fuel pumps for each automakers.....
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i doubt it would be GM parts or Ford parts.....they would probably go to an independant parts company and have them manufacture parts for both automakers....ex: Auto Parts Plus will make all the fuel pumps for each automakers.....
I gotcha, but that then adds a bit of research and more spending to get the parts made that will work for both Fords and GMs through another company. I was thinking that they already had the info for what works best with one vehicle, so switch it over to the other and see what works best.

They could always create their own independent company which would bear neither of thier names, and get past having the GM parts in Ford or Ford parts in GM.

Plus, relying on another company would be outsourcing, which can cause other problems down the line as well.
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i thought i read somewhere that both companies put together a group of engineers to build some new 6 speed that's going to be used in certain vehicles coming out soon... for some reason i think it mentioned ford's new "edge" thing they're going to be bringing out
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I gotcha, but that then adds a bit of research and more spending to get the parts made that will work for both Fords and GMs through another company. I was thinking that they already had the info for what works best with one vehicle, so switch it over to the other and see what works best.

They could always create their own independent company which would bear neither of thier names, and get past having the GM parts in Ford or Ford parts in GM.

Plus, relying on another company would be outsourcing, which can cause other problems down the line as well.
it wouldn't be any more outsourcing than what they already to to independent companys that stamp out their metal parts....my cousing worked at a company around here that stamped out fenders and doors for ford.....
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It sure would **** off a lot of rednecks.
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it wouldn't be any more outsourcing than what they already to to independent companys that stamp out their metal parts....my cousing worked at a company around here that stamped out fenders and doors for ford.....

True...
For my school we took a field trip to Delphi in Ohio, they make A LOT of plastic connectors for numerous amounts of car manufacturers. I really don't see any type of downfall if the two companies "partnered" together so to speak. If anything, with that much more research and development, the vehicles could potentially become more quality...

But I'll stick w/my ford and just say gm's are a piece...
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For this to happen, the government has to approve. I don't know how many of you are in school or remembered learning about monopolies and the Sherman Anti-Trust act. But in order for these two to merge, government approval is required. Yes yes, I know there is still another auto maker in the US, Dodge, but let me ask you a question, if Ford and GM came together, who's to say Dodge could and would stay afloat? This would leave Ford and GM to monopolize the US auto maker's market. Anyone see it the same way is I?
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For this to happen, the government has to approve. I don't know how many of you are in school or remembered learning about monopolies and the Sherman Anti-Trust act. But in order for these two to merge, government approval is required. Yes yes, I know there is still another auto maker in the US, Dodge, but let me ask you a question, if Ford and GM came together, who's to say Dodge could and would stay afloat? This would leave Ford and GM to monopolize the US auto maker's market. Anyone see it the same way is I?
They wouldn't have a monopoly though, because they would still have to compete against the likes of Honda and Toyota. If they do come together, Im sure it will be a partnership and not a merger...
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hmm yeah the day that happens is the day i would go out and buy a honda ridgeline haha
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First of all, it would be a monopoly if Dodge phased out. The US doesn't look at what automobile manufacturers are out of country, if there were only one in the country it would be considered an monopoly. Same with oil companies, we have 3 large oil manufacturers, if it were to drop down to one, it would be a monopoly, reguardless of the oil manufacturers in the Middle East.
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First of all, it would be a monopoly if Dodge phased out. The US doesn't look at what automobile manufacturers are out of country, if there were only one in the country it would be considered an monopoly. Same with oil companies, we have 3 large oil manufacturers, if it were to drop down to one, it would be a monopoly, reguardless of the oil manufacturers in the Middle East.
nope not a monopoly cause there are other manufatures in the U.S......since Honda, and Toyota are built here the U.S. government wouldn't consider it a monoply......and since they would still have their orgional brand name, just owned by the same they wouldn't be a monoply either......1 company can be a parent company to many of the same type companies and not be a monoply...
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i doubt it would be GM parts or Ford parts.....they would probably go to an independant parts company and have them manufacture parts for both automakers....ex: Auto Parts Plus will make all the fuel pumps for each automakers.....
Can anyone say amc.That is what this looks like.
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an allison tranny behind a powerstroke has always been a dream of mine
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i thought i read somewhere that both companies put together a group of engineers to build some new 6 speed that's going to be used in certain vehicles coming out soon... for some reason i think it mentioned ford's new "edge" thing they're going to be bringing out
100% correct!
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RE the 6 speed, yes, Ford and GM did have a venture to create a 6 speed transmission to be used in specific vehicles.
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If I ever see a bowtie on a Ford i am going to blow a gasket!



I understand the reasoning, but I have bashed Chevy for so long it isn't funny! There aren't to many newer Chevy's that I like(I like the new Corvettes and the new Tahoe/Suburban).
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Hey I am all for them helping each other out. I think something has to be done to get some of these foreign cars out of here.
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Ok....this sounds as lame as if someone told me John Deere and Case IH/New Holland were going to merge. Not going to happen.

Yes, hell would freeze over.
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