please help immediately - Ranger-Forums - The Ultimate Ford Ranger Resource


General Ford Ranger Discussion General discussion of the Ford Ranger that does not fit in any other sub-forum.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 05-01-2011
Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: aspers, PA
Posts: 801
please help immediately

alright so i changed plugs and a battery in my 1992 3.0 5spd distributed, and now it seems like its missfireing like a son of a *****, i have like no power and its idles pretty rough, the plug wires are in the right order and i checkes over and over agian, and they are all on all the way, the plugs were from my old truck and had the exact same part number on the advanced auto site, please help asap, i have no idea what happened
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 05-01-2011
bonez's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Toronto, Ontario
Posts: 433
gap on the plugs?
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 05-01-2011
Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: aspers, PA
Posts: 801
same as my old truck .42 - .46 and they are bosch ir fusion 4 point plugs same as what was in it before hand and they are none regapable
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 05-01-2011
V8 Level II's Avatar
RF Veteran
iTrader: (4)
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Michigan
Posts: 7,835
Check for cracked insulators or unseated boots. Common problems after a plug swap.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 05-01-2011
Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: aspers, PA
Posts: 801
i made sure all the ceramic was good when i put them on and i was care full when i put them on i didn't hear any cranking and they all went in problem free, all the wires appeared to be in the boot right and i checked to make sure all the boots were on right, at first they were not then i pushed them in a different way and they went on right still running bad, my dad said he heard that when you change the battery in some ford trucks it messes the timing up but this is distributed, so i have no idea what is going on i did not even tutch the distributer except i too a boot off to see what condition the contacts were in on it and putit right back
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 05-01-2011
Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: aspers, PA
Posts: 801
well any other ideas, i know i'm rushing it with the responses but i need to know whats wrong asap, thanks
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 05-01-2011
Nitrofan1's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Chattanooga, Tennessee
Posts: 56
I've worked in parts for 25 years and since the +4's have come on the scene I haven't seen 1 customer happy with them. For laughs put the old ones back in the truck. If it runs take those back and get Motorcraft OE or Autolite or even NGK as long as they have a single electrode, not multiples.

The original plug options: Autolite AP104, Motorcraft AWSF-32P or SP-413 (depending on the parts store). You can upgrade, my favorites would be iridium. Iridium is the hardest metal in a plug, has the smallest (.04mm) tip which requires less voltage to fire and will give a better fire plume to ignite the cylinder stroke. The best part is if the engine is in good shape and you treat it good iridium's may last well over 100,000 miles.

Oh, I work at Advance and I wouldn't have even offered +4's to you as a customer. That's how much I believe in what I'm telling you.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 05-01-2011
Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: aspers, PA
Posts: 801
well i was happy with them when i had them in my old truck and i will try stock plug replacement, and thank you, do you think that the plugs could really cause the issue, it ran fine before though with the old +4's though
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 05-01-2011
Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: aspers, PA
Posts: 801
and i would put the old ones back in but 2 of them the ceramics broke taking them out from how tight they were
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 05-02-2011
Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: aspers, PA
Posts: 801
any other ideas?
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 05-02-2011
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Muscatine, Iowa
Posts: 34
your truck isn't going to magically have problems when you change plugs unless you messed something up in the process...maybe its not obvious but go over the plug wires again, make sure they're in the same order. Throw those overpriced, junk plugs in the garbage and run a standard autolite lol

Could be many other things. Cross threaded plug, maybe you bumped something else during the install (map sensor wires, spout connector, etc) or the plug wires are damaged
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 05-02-2011
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: erie,pa
Posts: 99
Did you force them in or were they the wrong plugs?
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 05-02-2011
Nitrofan1's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Chattanooga, Tennessee
Posts: 56
I'm sure you either have another vehicle or can get a ride back to the parts store. Get those changed to Motorcraft or Autolite. Since you paid $7.00 a plug swap them for Iridiums!
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 05-02-2011
Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: aspers, PA
Posts: 801
well new plugs and wires, nothing, plugs are autolight platinum, the wires are getting juice but is still missing, cyanders 3 and 5 which are also sequencial in the firing order, for laughs i put the origonal air intake on, still nothing, acutally worse, put the k&N cone back on and was better than the stock but still the same all plugs are on right, pushed until i heard them click on, the only wires that i confused my self with yesterday i tried switching which mad it worse, and cylander 5's plug wire i know i didn't mess up, since its the furthest one back and when i took the wire off it hung in a different place than the other twoi checked the gap on all the plugs when i put them in, .045 the vehicle reccomondation is .042 - .046 i am confused as hell right now, like i said before i replaced the battery yesterday and didn't do anything when i put it back in, my dad said in his 2.9 he had to do certan things whe he replaced the battery according to his owners manual which i don't have
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 05-02-2011
bonez's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Toronto, Ontario
Posts: 433
unless something else happened and you forgot about it... the plug wires gotta be messed up. i cant see anything happening that would cause misfires out of no where...you have the correct battery and plugs in...why dont you try changing out the wires? this way you're eliminating the problems one by one...
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 05-03-2011
V8 Level II's Avatar
RF Veteran
iTrader: (4)
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Michigan
Posts: 7,835
Quote:
Originally Posted by 894banger View Post
any other ideas?
Let's take a step back and check a couple of things that could affect firing order:

1) Distributor rotation is clockwise.

2) Ranger V6 cylinders are numbered 1 - 2 - 3 front-to-back on the passenger side and 4 - 5 - 6 on the driver side.


Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 05-03-2011
rangerrunner11's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: .
Posts: 1,018
Reset the computer. I always do when playing with electricity
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 05-03-2011
Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: aspers, PA
Posts: 801
yeha the wires are brand new, and the plugs are ap104, i was told that the the 135 were on the passenger side and 246 were on the drivers side, but if thats teh case then 2 and 3 are misfieing, double checked all the gaps, and did one wire and plug at a time so i didn't mess up the order,
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 05-03-2011
Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: aspers, PA
Posts: 801
and how do you reset the computer right, i replaced the battery but just reatached the terminals, like i said before my dad had to go through a certain routine when he replaced the battery in his old ranger
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 05-03-2011
V8 Level II's Avatar
RF Veteran
iTrader: (4)
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Michigan
Posts: 7,835
Quote:
Originally Posted by 894banger View Post
i was told that the the 135 were on the passenger side and 246 were on the drivers side
This is incorrect.
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 05-03-2011
V8 Level II's Avatar
RF Veteran
iTrader: (4)
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Michigan
Posts: 7,835
Quote:
Originally Posted by 894banger View Post
and how do you reset the computer right, i replaced the battery but just reatached the terminals, like i said before my dad had to go through a certain routine when he replaced the battery in his old ranger
The PCM can be reset by disconnecting the negative battery cable and turning on the headlight switch for a few seconds, then reconnecting the cable. I don't see how this would help an ignition fault but it shouldn't hurt anything if you want to try it.
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 05-04-2011
Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: aspers, PA
Posts: 801
alright it as the disrtibuter cap all along, i didn't think it would be the cap since it ran perfectly fine before hand, i guess you have to replace everything when you do plugs, can someone elaborate that for me? anyways idles high or low now, its at the mechanics today for the e-brake not working, so its their problem for the day. that cap was really bad i'll have to post a pic later i'm suprised it was running as well as it was before the plugs.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Related Topics
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE.... annguyen1981 General Ford Ranger Discussion 13 12-05-2013 03:35 PM
please tell me where my PCV is, Please (did search) uplandhunter General Technical & Electrical 16 02-07-2011 09:34 AM
Engine starts, but stops immediately Laser Buckley SOHC - 2.3L & 2.5L Lima Engines 7 01-19-2011 01:20 AM


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:44 PM.


We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.