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Rant- ranger vs F150

I was thinking about adding another truck. One of my rangers turned 190,000 miles (2002). I don't want to get rid of it. Its becoming an experiment on how long it will last while getting worked hard.

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Before rebates this is what I am finding:
2009 f150 single cab v8 $21,000
2009 Ranger extended cab 4.0 $23,0000

Does someone care to explain this to me? At least I know why there are so many people swapping to f-150's. Pretty rediculous imo.
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what are the options on both vehicles? the F-150 is standard cab and the ranger is extended cab. if you compare two similarly equipped trucks you will see the ranger is far cheaper than the F-150
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One of the reasons I didn't buy a new Ranger when I was looking. Haha... doesn't make sense to me either. But I guess there's a reason the F-150 sells well.
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I believe ford is just slowly starting to push out the ranger. They hardly keep them on the lots and when they do they are usually pretty plain jane's. They want to sell the fullsize line more. Maybe things will change when the new ranger comes out in 2012.
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New ranger prices are insane. Especially since they have been virtually the same since, what, 98?
So welcome to the (future) F150 club! lol
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if you compare two similarly equipped trucks you will see the ranger is far cheaper than the F-150
nope. Maybe if you compare the 4 cyl ranger with a v8 f150. I need the v6 Ranger for towing. The v6 ranger is not cheaper than an f-150.

The f150 was base model with rubber floors and no power windows etc. It was single cab. at $21

The ranger at $23 did have power windows but that was a $500 option. It has an extended cab.

The only real comparison I found was a long bed single cab 4.0 ranger with rubber floors and no power windows. it was still higher than the $21 f-150.
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Yep. I think it's pretty ridiculous too. My local stealership only stocks 2 or 3 4x4 rangers. The rest are the Sport model 2wds. They have 3 rows of F-150s, ranging from the standard cab long bed work trucks to the fully loaded Platinum editions. If Ford were smart they would redesign the ranger as it's a good little truck. I see quite a few 08-09 rangers running around here.
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nope. Maybe if you compare the 4 cyl ranger with a v8 f150. I need the v6 Ranger for towing. The v6 ranger is not cheaper than an f-150.

The f150 was base model with rubber floors and no power windows etc. It was single cab. at $21

The ranger at $23 did have power windows but that was a $500 option. It has an extended cab.

The only real comparison I found was a long bed single cab 4.0 ranger with rubber floors and no power windows. it was still higher than the $21 f-150.
compair base model ranger with a base model F-150. my point is youre compairing apples to oranges if one truck is better equiped than another.
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Not really, he needs the 4.0 to tow the weight he needs too so he can't really go with a base model 4 cyl Ranger to compare the two.
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compair base model ranger with a base model F-150. my point is youre compairing apples to oranges if one truck is better equiped than another.
I understand your point and you are right that the cheapest ranger is cheaper than the cheapest f150.


Add the v6 into the equation. The cheapest v6 ranger is not cheaper than the cheapest v8 f150.

i'm gonna build one real quick so i don't eat my words. lol
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thats pretty stupid.. are they both 4x2 or 4x4?

A ranger is smaller in every aspect. smaller, weaker (should be cheaper) parts..
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I understand your point and you are right that the cheapest ranger is cheaper than the cheapest f150.


Add the v6 into the equation. The cheapest v6 ranger is not cheaper than the cheapest v8 f150.

i'm gonna build one real quick so i don't eat my words. lol
yeah i get what youre saying too. i think they are just trying to move the F-150's off the lot. it seems to be working, they cant keep them on the ford lot by me, hell they cant even keep the rangers on the lot.
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A ranger is smaller in every aspect. smaller, weaker (should be cheaper) parts..
The last time I called Autozone for the front wheel hubs for my truck, they told me they were $345 per side. My friend's diesel EXCURSION 4x4 was like $250-$300. It's just plain ridiculous!
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if you are towing, consider a diesel, and i dont really think you need something brand-spankin-new from a dealership. diesels have much more torque, last 3x or mor longer than a gas rig, have much more overall power, and did i say last long?

what would be cool is if they started making gen 3's again lol
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The last time I called Autozone for the front wheel hubs for my truck, they told me they were $345 per side. My friend's diesel EXCURSION 4x4 was like $250-$300. It's just plain ridiculous!
345 per side! holy rip off batman! you can get em cheaper from ford! look somewhere else
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I just built 3 trucks on the website, going with the cheapest options. I did two rangers for the only two cab configurations available on a 4.0.

All are automatic with no power (windows, etc) and rubber floor.

Ranger single cab long bed 4.0 $21,475

Ranger Extended cab 4.0 $22,770

F150 single cab 4.6L v8 6-1/2ft bed $21,790
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Jeez same price for a bigger roomer truck that will haul more. The Ranger must be more expensive to produce since they don't make as many.
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he doesn't really haul enough weight to warrant paying twice as much for a diesel.

granted a diesel is nice, more power, lasts longer, better fuel mileage, better fuel mileage while hauling... and they sound cool
but oil changes cost upwards of 3-4 times what they do on a gas motor, you gotta do the fuel filters more often, when stuff breaks it does cost more to fix.



You could get a real nice 99-00 7.3 power stroke for 10-12k in the 150,000 mile range. Old 12v 5.9 cummins are probably the most reliable out there and get the best fuel mileage.
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The last time I called Autozone for the front wheel hubs for my truck, they told me they were $345 per side. My friend's diesel EXCURSION 4x4 was like $250-$300. It's just plain ridiculous!
thats cause you went to AZ, when i got mine it was like $170 less at Advance.
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the reality is I don;t want a big truck. The trailers are ten foot long. Everything is a lot more maneuverable on the back of a ranger vs a full size truck. We are snaking in and out of new home sites with the truck/trailer combo.

I bought one f-150 just so we'd have one truck for larger jobs. Its wasn;t about the tow capacity, it was about carrying 3 people comfy in the truck to get to the jobsite. The ranger can;t do that. We also have the occasional trip to haul full slabs to the showroom on a 16ft trailer. The one f150 does it fine. I don't need 2.

In the past I could get the rangers for $5000 or more off msrp. It may have been the same for f-150's. I never really checked. The price seemed 'reasonable' so i bought them and went about my business.

I think the good rebates are gone for a while:
cash for clunkers replaced the factory rebates and its out of reach for a bunch of us.
The mfgrs made the adjustments to put the factories in line with real world sales numbers. This lessens the need for the rebates.

I guess I'm pissed cause the good old days of getting a deal may be gone.

I bought a brand new 3.0 single cab 3.0 automatic edge(no power) in 2003 for $11,500. I bought a 2004 4.0 4x4 manual tranny edge (with electric windows) for around $18,500.
Now I have to pay (with rebates) $20,000 for the cheapest v6 ranger on the lot. maybe $19 if I'm lucky.
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he doesn't really haul enough weight to warrant paying twice as much for a diesel.

granted a diesel is nice, more power, lasts longer, better fuel mileage, better fuel mileage while hauling... and they sound cool
but oil changes cost upwards of 3-4 times what they do on a gas motor, you gotta do the fuel filters more often, when stuff breaks it does cost more to fix.



You could get a real nice 99-00 7.3 power stroke for 10-12k in the 150,000 mile range. Old 12v 5.9 cummins are probably the most reliable out there and get the best fuel mileage.
Yep. Just comparing prices. Thank god I haven't had to mess with them yet but that's what they quoted me. I thought they were insane!
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sounds screwy to me...

But I understand the feeling Wayne. We got the 08 F150 XLT right before Thanksgiving, with 4.6L Crew Cab, loaded minus leather. After employee pricing, my $500 student discount, and the $5500 Texas/Oklahoma discount, we paid 21K or 22K for a 35K truck.

She wouldn't let me price or even look at Rangers lol.
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That is pretty rough, but you can probably get a deal on a ranger somewhere, I just bought an 09 4.0L 5spd 4x2 sport (with the hitch and 4.10) for 16500 after taxes (up here in canukistan, mind you)
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So, you are saying that a guy who makes decent money and has a legit business can't get a break. But the poor people who don't want to work and normally couldn't afford cars can get big help from the government, huh?
Hmm.... Get use to it! lol
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In all honesty, if Ford still offered a manual with the F150 4x4, I would have bought one of them instead. Since they didn't I had a choice to go up to the F250 (which is way to much truck for me) or down to the Ranger.

Now that I have my Ranger, I love it, and plan on keeping it till oil runs out.

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