Thinking about going back to stock height
#27
You can easily run 32s without the body lift and that alone will gain you a bit of mpg, but in reality there is no such thing as a Ranger with great mpg. Going to higher gears is the worst thing you can do.
In practical terms, you should just drive the car until it dies, including road trips. Get AAA Plus if you are really worried about not making the trip. The car will last longer than you think and the money you save in the mean time will be significant.
In practical terms, you should just drive the car until it dies, including road trips. Get AAA Plus if you are really worried about not making the trip. The car will last longer than you think and the money you save in the mean time will be significant.
#28
You have no idea what your talking about. He can't run 32's on an 2wd xlt. At most he could run 31's. Taking the BL off wont change a thing on MPG. Yes moving to a 4.56 would improve his mpg because his truck wont struggle as much to turn the tires. The 01.5+ 2.3 duratec gets great mpgs. I currently run a 2.3/auto with 4.10 gears on a 27" tire and avg 26mpg. With a manual people have seen as high as low to mid 30mpg.
#29
You have no idea what your talking about. He can't run 32's on an 2wd xlt. At most he could run 31's. Taking the BL off wont change a thing on MPG. Yes moving to a 4.56 would improve his mpg because his truck wont struggle as much to turn the tires. The 01.5+ 2.3 duratec gets great mpgs. I currently run a 2.3/auto with 4.10 gears on a 27" tire and avg 26mpg. With a manual people have seen as high as low to mid 30mpg.
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#31
Well, since I am still up I will pick apart your nonsense.
He can. I don't see where he stated what exact model he is driving but at worst it would be a cheap front lift away.
Yes it will. Dropping your body down out of the wind does save a small amount on drag. I said it would only save "a bit".
False. He stated that it only struggles uphill at high speed, and that is normal. Raising his gear ratio will lower mpg at all other times, and he can simply downshift on hills. Smaller, lighter tires will help a lot, but because of the inertia not the ratio.
"As high as low to mid," eh?
"Great" is subjective I guess, but lets say he could get 30 mpg. It would still be his least efficient car, so why bother? A truck will never be the mileage machine you seem to think it is.
Your opinion that 26mpg is great and everyone else is stupid does not help him use less gas.
He can. I don't see where he stated what exact model he is driving but at worst it would be a cheap front lift away.
Yes it will. Dropping your body down out of the wind does save a small amount on drag. I said it would only save "a bit".
"Great" is subjective I guess, but lets say he could get 30 mpg. It would still be his least efficient car, so why bother? A truck will never be the mileage machine you seem to think it is.
Your opinion that 26mpg is great and everyone else is stupid does not help him use less gas.
#32
Well, since I am still up I will pick apart your nonsense.
He can. I don't see where he stated what exact model he is driving but at worst it would be a cheap front lift away.
Yes it will. Dropping your body down out of the wind does save a small amount on drag. I said it would only save "a bit".
False. He stated that it only struggles uphill at high speed, and that is normal. Raising his gear ratio will lower mpg at all other times, and he can simply downshift on hills. Smaller, lighter tires will help a lot, but because of the inertia not the ratio.
"As high as low to mid," eh?
"Great" is subjective I guess, but lets say he could get 30 mpg. It would still be his least efficient car, so why bother? A truck will never be the mileage machine you seem to think it is.
Your opinion that 26mpg is great and everyone else is stupid does not help him use less gas.
He can. I don't see where he stated what exact model he is driving but at worst it would be a cheap front lift away.
Yes it will. Dropping your body down out of the wind does save a small amount on drag. I said it would only save "a bit".
False. He stated that it only struggles uphill at high speed, and that is normal. Raising his gear ratio will lower mpg at all other times, and he can simply downshift on hills. Smaller, lighter tires will help a lot, but because of the inertia not the ratio.
"As high as low to mid," eh?
"Great" is subjective I guess, but lets say he could get 30 mpg. It would still be his least efficient car, so why bother? A truck will never be the mileage machine you seem to think it is.
Your opinion that 26mpg is great and everyone else is stupid does not help him use less gas.
On another note I never said everyone else is stupid. All I did was call YOU out on what you said because I disagreed with most of it. Some of your facts you were and still are wrong about. If he took the BL off he would at most maybe see .5mpg better as I experienced the results of trying that.
For a note on the gears. If he went to a 4.56 over his 4.10 with the 32's. He would use less gas going up a hill at high speed then he would dropping down a gear that will put his revs higher. Not to mention it will improve his city mileage which if I recall seems to be where he drives the truck the most. One of my buddies here had a 09 2wd xlt with coil front suspension like the OP's truck. He did a 3" BL that I helped instal and ran 32's. Anything more with that lift and he would of rubbed like crazy. On a non BL xlt 2wd you can squeeze a 31", but expect to rub a LOT. 30" is the recommended size tire on a stock coil sprung truck with out any lift.
I've learned all this stuff from being around the forums a long time and personally experiencing a lot of the things we are talking about. I also never said ranger's were god's gift to the best fuel economy, but you CAN get good mpg's out of SOME rangers. All the V6 rangers will get bad mpgs, but the 4cyl rangers especially mated with a manual can see good mpg numbers.
#33
Raising the axle ratio also raises rpm. Are you even reading what you write? Does he only drive uphill? Does he do it both ways, barefoot, in the snow?
#35
OK. firts i wouldnt look at de-modding the truck, id look at why your getting shitty mileage with a 2.5. id start with tire pressure. properly inflated? is your alignment in check 100%? when the last time you cleaned your fuel air and intake systems?
Id suggest 4.56 gears, they help alot. i have the 4.0L, i have a 6" suspension lift, 4.56 gears, automatic, 33x12.5x15's that weight 80lbs each. I average about 300 miles to a tank, which works out to 17.5 MPG mixed driving. on the highway i get about 21mpg, and all city gives me about 16mpg. Its not a prius, but i get better mileage then half my friends do with less lift and modifications.
if its suffering, something is causing it. something is making the truck consume more fuel, and is hurting its ability to save gas. do a tune up on it and have it checked. often people as the drive mod the truck. when their mileage drops they think of its the big tires. often its lack of maintenance.
Id suggest 4.56 gears, they help alot. i have the 4.0L, i have a 6" suspension lift, 4.56 gears, automatic, 33x12.5x15's that weight 80lbs each. I average about 300 miles to a tank, which works out to 17.5 MPG mixed driving. on the highway i get about 21mpg, and all city gives me about 16mpg. Its not a prius, but i get better mileage then half my friends do with less lift and modifications.
if its suffering, something is causing it. something is making the truck consume more fuel, and is hurting its ability to save gas. do a tune up on it and have it checked. often people as the drive mod the truck. when their mileage drops they think of its the big tires. often its lack of maintenance.
#36
#37
I didn't quote just you, but you did say a few(few means 2-3) wouldn't be worth it. However with him having a 4cyl it can make a much larger difference compared to doing it to a 3.0 or 4.0. Those would only gain a few in return. However if he lowered it he could see upwards to a 10-12mpg difference. He's getting 15mpg on 32's and going to a 25-26" tire on a 17" wheels will change the entire truck between mpgs and the way the truck drives.
Mcleary was the main one I was talking to. He said "if you drive a ranger dont expect good mpg dd" Which is wrong. With my 2.3 duratec with automatic and 4.10 gears I avg 26mpg and last time I checked that's pretty good dd mpg. If it was a 5spd I'd see even better out of it.
Mcleary was the main one I was talking to. He said "if you drive a ranger dont expect good mpg dd" Which is wrong. With my 2.3 duratec with automatic and 4.10 gears I avg 26mpg and last time I checked that's pretty good dd mpg. If it was a 5spd I'd see even better out of it.
I always wonder how much better I could get if I was somewhere like Florida, or Kansas.
BTW this is my first post 👍
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