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Look at it like this. Diesels are meant to last. SEMI Trucks with their LARGE deisels last for over 1,000,000 miles with proper maintenance. Yes, you read that right. My dad's Peterbilt was bought brand new with a Cat and she's got 960,000 on her Odometer. Come on. You can't beat them!
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Umm, I don't understand where you get your facts...


1) Diesels have more torque(or in the truck world, power). And upgrade well if there's an aftermarket. We 4.0 SOHC guys are happy with out power, BUT (on to point two)

2) Diesels get better gas mileage. Plain and simple.

3) Diesel fuel pumps are everywhere. I live in Alaska, every gas station has them. I live in Minnesota too, every gas station has them.

4) Diesel fuel sometimes has an inverse relationship to gas. This is because during the summer demand goes down because people stop heating their houses with fuel. So its price can actually go down.

5) Diesel engines are reliable as all hell. The only engine off the top of my mind that could possibly match the reliability of a diesel is the ford Inline 5 300 in F150s and F250s in the 80s/90s.


To sum it up, their mpg offsets the gas price, diesel is easy to find, more power and upgrada posibilities is better, and reliable as heck.

-Aaron
It's an inline 6 jackass. It was available in the 70's as well

BTW I don't think deisels get much 'gas mileage', jackass. They get better fuel economy over a gas engine though.
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I hear you talking Travis, but all I can read is



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I'd pee in her butt
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I'd pee in her butt
Don't u have a jeep with 20 inch wheels to get stuck in a puddle somewhere?
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I'd pee in her butt
That's my sister jackass
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He knows its ur sis, that's why he said it.

I showed him the nakey pics u showed me too.
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because deisels pour out black smoke


...well they do eventually, i want one for the extra power
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because deisels pour out black smoke
Yeah unburnt fuel is great......NOT!
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it looks cool
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Yeah unburnt fuel is great......NOT!
Next your going to tell me that smoking tires just wastes tread! LOL



~HJ

Disclaimer: Not that I don't agree with your point about Black smoke, My friend Paul does that with his Dodge and like to pull up next to my window and Rev up his truck Pisses me right off!
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Look at it like this. Diesels are meant to last. SEMI Trucks with their LARGE deisels last for over 1,000,000 miles with proper maintenance. Yes, you read that right. My dad's Peterbilt was bought brand new with a Cat and she's got 960,000 on her Odometer. Come on. You can't beat them!
Yes, true about older diesels. Newer ones are a completely different story. With all the new electronics and emmisions there are too many flaws and parts to go bad for them to last that long without a major overhaul anymore. I had to take my truck into a Cat shop and the lead mechanic I talked to agreed with me and said that all this emissions crap they have to put on now isn't even no where near fine tuned and acts up on ALL new big diesels in one form or another.

Take my rig for example.... 15.0L Caterpillar, 251k miles(should be barely broken in), never 'beat'. Ran like dog ****. After six weeks of being in the shop and $20k in labor and parts it now runs they way it should......for now. Can you guess what the 'major' problem was? ONE pin in a 200+pin harness went bad. EGR valve stuck open, then a whole bunch of other technical b/s I didn't comprehend went wrong and the entire exhaust system over heated, the oil in the turbo broke down, bearings went bad in the turbo, the pipe going to the exhaust stack broke off, the entire stack itself bent b/c of the heat. It was a bloody mess b/c of one pin. Food for thought.

It wasn't a one in a million thing either. The mechanic also said he's seen the problem many times and heard about the same things happening with other engines including Detroit, Cummins, and International.
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Next your going to tell me that smoking tires just wastes tread!
Oh but it does! I'm a miser when it comes to things like that.
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Stock tires are for burning tread.
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Stock tires are for burning tread.
On Ranger's yes. That's about the only thing they're good for. Stupid cheap wranglers.
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hey i burned my Wildcats halfway through an intersection tonight... racing a Nissan 240 SX which I beat... but i still burned them!

Give me a diesel it might be all the way with the torque!
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have any of you actually driven a diesel ranger? i dont ask to be a dick, but i have...just recently...as in last tuesday. im currently deployed and i am in charge of the vehicles for our unit. i had to drive one of these 4 door diesel rangers and let me tell you...you can keep it! it has NO pick up...NO acceleration. it may have some torque but for a daily driver...no way in hell!!!!! i see if i can find out exactly what motor is in it. as for rangers over here...some are pretty cool looking. i will see if i can get some pics.

and no these arent military trucks tuned down...


and also i feel sorry for you guys with regular cabs... i have one as my vehicle over here and there is no room...i dont see how yall can do it.
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I didn't know they tune down military rigs. Where are you currently deployed?
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yea i dont know if they do...i know they do to some of our tow rigs. so they cant go above a certain speed. im at al udeid.
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is it turbo or no?
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nope.
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The non turbo diesel rangers are a waste of them. They only sell them in 2wd in England and they max at about 75mph and 0-60 takes about 20 seconds.

I have the old crude technology 2.5l turbo diesel ranger and its alright. Does 28-29mpg measured fill to fill over about 5000 miles. Tows our hefty diesel RIB around just fine.
For offroading and towing, i would say the new 2.5 durawotsit is better than your 4.0L V8's. It'll pull just as hard and use half the fuel.

If your a man who likes to drive his truck like a race car, then no, don't bother with a diesel. Loadsa torque low down but they arn't fast.

Not to mention you can fit a snorkle and it'll run in windscreen deep water...
Harry
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Sweet, someone's opinion who actually has one.
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I have an F-250 7.3L Powerstroke Diesel AND i have my '02 Ranger. I bought it for the gas mileage and for towing our boat to the cabin (7 hour trip) and everything else that i tow. I will tell you though that i the only problem i have with my truck is the CPS sensors which are very common in the 7.3ls.

I get 20-21 mpg regularly with my truck non towing and 16-17mpg towing regularly. Plus i have it now to where i pay $50-$60 bucks maybe once a week if i'm lucky. I drive the truck a ton up to 150 miles a day. I can pour on the soot as much as i want but as travis said it is a waste of gas because it is unburnt fuel. It's great to pour on the occasional tailgater or rice burner though. The power and torque plus the fuel mileage are what sold me on the deal. Diesels are also built to last and built to tow. I use mine regularly for it's purpose. Plus this big boy has some mods and the aftermarket for them is huge. .

MY ranger on the other hand get 13-15 mpg and i was buying gas every other day for 50-60. Yes i have 34s which kills my mileage but i have 33s on the F-250 and i still blow the ranger's fuel mileage away.

Which would you choose? Gas here is 3.09 for regular and Diesel is 2.73-2.93.

I love both of my trucks. I'll run the big boy into the ground and the little one is my fun truck. I wouldn't ever trade my diesel in for a gasser. EVER. If i could put the 7.3L powerstroke or find a 4BT cummins to swap into the ranger your darn right i would do it in a second. Which maybe in the future i just might do but it will run strictly on Biodiesel. I'd love to run biodiesel but there are only two places i know of on this side of PA that sell it and they aren't exaclty cheap either. I might buy the whole setup and make my own fuel and get the system for the truck.

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I'd be at the dealer as soon as I thought he might have a diesel in stock. I can't promise I'd buy one, but I'd definitely have a look.

The MPGs and option of running bio-diesel would be two of the biggest driving factors. But then I'd gladly take the monstrous torque too. I could give a damn about HP. My truck is not a sports car. I didn't buy it as one and I don't expect or care to have it perform as one. If I get 'smoked' at every stoplight by every zipper-head in a Civic then I could really give a damn. What I care about is cost of ownership and having the capacity to haul crap when I need to. I've found my 4.0L powered Ranger wanting in both categories on occasion. I would look to a diesel to try to help that.

All that said, I can think of one really big reason why I would probably walk away from a dealer empty handed, even if they did have small-capacity diesel Rangers or F-150's in stock: price. If I'm not mistaken Super-duty and similar pickups carry a significant premium when outfitted w/ diesel engines. I am under the impression that a diesel F350 costs a pretty sizable amount more than a gas-powered truck w/ the same trim. I'm also under the impression that the same is true in South America w/ the Ranger. We've had this discussion before and somebody pointed out that the small-capacity turbo-diesel sells for a lot more than a gas-powered Ranger does in every market around the world.

So, part of this question is: would you pay $30-35k for a Ranger? Yeah, I'm not sure I would either..
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