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Windshield nozzles issue

hi y'all

got my 04 Edge a month ago, not time to do mods yet but keep tracking of what you guys are doing here and getting ready to do 'em on my truck.

Also my wife is driving the truck right now since I work pretty far from home and with gas prices I rather stick with my Jetta as a daily driver for now.

Yesterday I was at home and went under the hood to take a look to see what's under there. Whinshield nozzles weren't working since the day we brought the truck home, the I remove the lid if the reservoir and was filled of a nasty kind of algae (?) (spell) .... I then flush the content and refill it, went inside and still, nothing happened. I then followed the lines and unplugged everything to make sure nothing was clogged... all was fine but still nothing .
I decided to start blowing into the reservoir to try to force the water to get into the lines and the I got water out of the first one ( passangerside) and seconds later out of the other one, but even eith water into the system nothing happens when you go inside and push the button to clean your windshield.

Might be a fuse I am unaware of ?
Any of you knows what it could be ?

thanks a lot and keep it up with the nice work y'all are doing in your trucks

Carlos
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Hear any sounds coming from the washer pump? Tried removing the nozzles and using compressed air to clean them out? he lines/connectors could probably use a good blowin out as well.

I'd def look into the washer pump though. You should hear the motor working when you push the button in. A helper is always useful in these types of situations =]
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The wipers work when you push the end of the stalk, right? Also, like Travis said, listen to see if it makes a noise
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thanks you guys for the input
the wipers works when the button's pushed, and have no idea about the pump making noises, gonna have to take the wife to lend me a hand on this one.

Can you give me an approach on how to get the nozzles off ? Because it seems like the have to be accessed (spell) from behind the dash or something like that 'cause I don't see any possible way to remove the thing between the hood and the windshield, sorry I don't have the name of that part :)

I might try to get some compressed air through the last part of the line and see what happens. I have to assume that the water pumt is the cylinder at the end of the line , am I right ?

Sorry for keep bugging you but I'm new to Rangers and haven't had the time to get into the whole thing and get familiar with the mechanism.

Have a nice weekend
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I forgot that the Ranger's nozzles are on the cowl panel(too much SoCo tonight) but instead of trying to remove them, just try putting an air jet right into the washer nozzles with the lines still connected. If you get bubbles in the washer fluid resevoir, you know it's partially clear. Get your wife to hit the washer button and listen under the hood for the motor to kick on. It should be right by the cowl box by the firewall. Then again, I can't tell you 100% that's where it is. Just assuming. If you know where the washer pump motor is or even have a good ear, listen for it to kick on. If you hear nothing then you know you'll have to replace the motor.
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the pump is attached to the reservoir i think, its the black round thing attached to it.
my guess is the pump is bad or theres a short/bad fuse somewhere.
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btw look in your owners manual, it will tell you what fuses do what.
the fuse panel is on the side of the dash when you open the door.
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btw look in your owners manual, it will tell you what fuses do what.
the fuse panel is on the side of the dash when you open the door.
A step in the right direction but......



For an 04 Ranger it should be relay 46B in the power distribution box, on the driver's side tight against the fender of the engine compartment between the brake master cylinder and the ABS module.
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Isn't it still under warranty?
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If it's under 36k miles or bought after 11/19/03 it's covered by Ford......providing that he bought it new.
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The washer motor is powered from the same fuse as the wipers, so that must be OK.

The washer switch works by grounding at the same point as the wiper switch so the ground should be OK, too. I suppose there is a slight chance that the switch itself could be inop, though.

There is the washer motor relay in the underhood distribution and the washer motor at the reservoir and the motor ground which is bolted inside the passenger side fender. Besides those, there's nothing left but the wiring and the timer function of the Smart Junction Box.

My guess is that either the motor or the relay was smoked by someone trying to get the clogged washer system to work.
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thanks again you guys
I'm gonna try all that in a while and then I'll be back to you to le tyou know what happens.

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OK
did everything suggested here but still got nothing.
Cleaned lines with compressed air, from the end of the line to the reservoir and got bubbles out of the tank, meaning that is not obstructed.

Check in the fuse box under the hood, check the relay and even used a different one to see if the other was f***ed, but seems like everything was OK.

About the pump, not sure, I can hear the relay and some other thing when I push the button but I'm still not sure where that pump is.

Maybe sandwiched between firewall and dash..... If you follow the water lines, they take you to that area with the passanger side nozzle beaing the first one in the line but stil no clue.

Any idea how much that pump could cost ?

thanks again for the support
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I'm still not sure where that pump is.
Look on the passenger side in, on, under or near the washer fluid reservoir. It is in that general area. The motor is small and the wires going to it are black and black/white.
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yes it *should* be a small black cylinder attached to the bottom/side/side/back of the fuild box. there usually like $20 to replace, i replaced 4 on an f-150 there easy once you get the fuild box out. and its also a good time to clean inside it from the sound of yours
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If there is algae in the washer resovoir it is inside the pump. We have a huge problem with the Caravans at work doing exactly the same thing. It smells like rotten feet though. Best bet is to replace the washer pump. I also add about a tablespoon of bleach to the system after you replace it to kill what's left on the bottom of the tank.
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I don't have the truck at home today but I'll try again tomorrow.

At the bottom of the reservoir is the output hole itself, then a rubber filter to prevent any dirt to go into the system, and then is an electronic part, small black plastic with cables coming to it, and whatnot .....could that one be the pump ? or should I look for something bigger, more a mechanical part ?

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At the bottom of the reservoir is the output hole itself, then a rubber filter to prevent any dirt to go into the system, and then is an electronic part, small black plastic with cables coming to it, and whatnot .....could that one be the pump ? or should I look for something bigger, more a mechanical part ?
The motor/pump is not very big. Use the wire color codes I gave to identify it.
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The motor is small and the wires going to it are black and black/white.
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I'll check that tomorrow Bob, thanks again
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lol i posted where the pump was located wayy up in the post.
i almost bet its the pump, they just go bad some times.
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