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99 Ford ranger Bucking

I have a 99 Ford Ranger 4.0 it’s got a terrible bucking issue. It only happens under a load. If it’s idling and I rev it up no issues no mis fires runs excellent. However when I put in drive and take off under a load it’s terrible. Both cold and warm here is what I have done so far also No DTC codes...

New fuel pump X2
New Fuel filter
New upper & Lower intake gaskets
New MAF
Unplugged EGR no change
New IAC idle air control
performed Test with Smoke machine no leaks
New plugs and wires
Verified fuel injectors are working
Fuel psi 64

Any help be great. * I just ordered a new coil pack today try this. Ordered 4/12/18...THANK YOU

 
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I would check TPS(throttle position sensor)

It is the fuel injection equivalent of a carb's "accelerator pump", it tells PCM(computer) to add more fuel when you press down on the gas pedal, so you get instant throttle response.
But............you should get a code if there was a problem with TPS

Get a volt meter and set it for 20vDC
Use a sewing pin to pierce center wire on TPS connector
Turn on key, engine off
Ground meter and test voltage on center wire
Should read .69-.99, under 1 volt, throttle closed
Now open throttle manually and watch voltage, should go up steadily as throttle opens, no jumping or dropping.
At WOT(wide open throttle), it should read 4.5-4.9volts
Open and close throttle several times watching voltage

Free and easy vacuum leak test:
Warm up engine, let it idle
Unplug the 2 wire connector on IAC Valve
IAC Valve will close all the way and RPMs should drop to 500, or engine may even stall, either is OK, it means no vacuum leaks.

If RPMs stay up then there is a vacuum leak

Now there is an anti-diesel screw on the throttle linkage that some mistake for an "idle screw" and fuel injection can't use an idle screw, no Jets.
If RPMs do not drop when IAC Valve is unplugged then someone may have messed with this screw.
Turn it counter clockwise and see if RPMs start to drop, if not turn it back to where it was.
If RPMs do drop then keep turning screw until engine is at 500rpms barely running.
This also adjusts TPS throttle closed voltage so retest it
 

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RonD: Thank You I will check TPS. I did unplug IAC and RPM dropped it almost died. I will check TPS tonight and post what it reads. Thank you so much this is really tough to diagnose.
 
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yes, bucking/hesitation issues are usually air/fuel mix related
When you press down on gas pedal air/fuel gets instantly Lean, MAF air flow/voltage increases slowly so there is a delay, TPS gives computer the "heads up" to add more fuel instantly

Cold or warm
Dirty MAF was common issue on 4.0ls
Vacuum leak
dirty fuel filter, causes momentary pressure drop under acceleration
TPS is long shot, but not no shot, because it is monitored

Cam position sensor could cause it, but again a highly monitored sensor
 
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The TPS is really all I have not checked. I ordered a new coil pack and wires to install everything else is new except for the cam shaft synchronizer sensor that’s a possibility I may have to try next. I even verified catalytic converter was in good shape and working properly
 
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Could it be in limp mode? I did watch a ranger with that happening one time, but it was more like it fell flat on it's face rather then bucking. But in park it would act normal
 
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GT2000 the truck does great in park Zero issues but when I put inn drive and take off it has a severe jerking/buck affect if you floor it the truck will accelerate however it gets terribly worse. Idles great in drive and park. It’s only when you drive truck it gets worse. Torque converter maybe hmmm ???
 
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Plugged up exhaust maybe.

REV engine while someone feels tail pipe flow
 
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RonD yes did this plenty of exhaust coming out. Plus checked temp pre and post cat to verify plugged. 02 sensor good too. I’m thinking if new coil pack and wires don’t do it. Cam sycronizer is next.
 
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RonD I checked TPS it was exactly what you said it should be. Thank you. However I ohm’d out the coil pack itself. If you check at the plug There is (4) prong to check continuity The first two banks measure 1.6 ohms the other one the third Bank measured 00.9 I’m just wondering if I got a dead bank in my coil pack do you know of another way to check the coil pack? According to the Shop each bank should read 1.6 Ohms or greater. Can a faulty coil pack cause bucking of truck only under a load?? I still have no CEL Very very difficult to diagnose with no check engine light
 

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Yes Ford Coil Pack coils should be about 1.6 ohms, 1.3-1.8 was the range I think

Yes all 3 should be within the same range.

So that one coil has a short in the "coil" of that wire, so when you test the OHMs it is traveling thru a shorter coil of wire, so has lower ohms.
This does 2 things, it powers up faster but not as much, and it releases a spark sooner and weaker

Yes, it could cause misfires issues under load, i.e. when air/fuel mix gets Rich you need a stronger spark

The coil is not broken, just out of spec so wouldn't generate a code most likely, and it is an unusual occurrence.
I read about early 2000's 3.0l Rangers having coil pack issues, nothing about 4.0l coil packs in any year
 
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RonD So with a lower ohm on my coil pack on my (1) bank I am thinking replacing it. Here is my thoughts. I installed all new wires and plugs about a month ago the truck ran great for (2) weeks then the bucking issue came back this is when I decided to check the coil pack out so I’m feeling possibly the coil pack is bad. What is your thoughts.?? I have all new wires again to install however I do not want to install them until I replace the coil pack would you agree?
 
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If possible go to auto parts house with your ohm meter and test a new coil pack, just to see.

Spark plug wires can't be hurt by coils

Have a look at this video: youtube.com/watch?v=c1zhgsnyZWw

Confirms coil pack problem
 
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RonD if this don’t work all I have left is Cam Shaft sycronizer. The biggest reason I’m chasing the coil pack is when I put new plugs and wires in it ran for (2) weeks with no issues. Then the bucking came back. So something with that made it run good. It’s really all I have to go off of. I have taken it too (3) shops with no fix. So I’m on my own here and it’s really kicking my butt.The YouTube video you sent isthe one I watched his reads 1.6, 1.6, 0.09 So he claims his 3rd bank has failed same as mine.
 

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0.9 yes

The coil STILL WORKS so engine could run fine and then not run fine, when it heats up OHMs may go above 1.1 OHMs, so works better, or not.

This is not an ON/OFF failure, which is why it has been hard to track down.
 
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well I’m replacing it. Then see what happens if no good I’ll change out sycronizer
 
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OK update changed out coil pack still no change truck still bucks and jerks under a load when driving however when truck is in park if you floor the truck while it is in park it now cuts out possibly injectors or can the camshaft synchronizer cause this issue when truck is not under a load? If you take RPMs up to 3500 to 4000 RPM it now cit’s out/misfires. Any help
 
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In Park or Neutral all fuel injected engines will have a REV limiter active, usually 3,000rpm is max.
 
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RonD That makes sense as to why it was missing at higher RPM. Can the cam shaft synchronizer cause issues when in park or neutral or only under a load?
i’m thinking that is what I am going to do next if that is not it I really have no idea. You could be the torque converter causing me issues under a load versus a misfire. I could tell the coil absolutely was not the problem when I started the vehicle the whole motor would shake for a about 30-40 seconds then smoothed out
 

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At this point I would spend the $30 on a Bluetooth OBD2 reader so you can watch LIVE sensor levels while engine is running and even while driving.

Can't recommend one over another
APPs are free or $5

If possible get an extension cable with it.
These OBD2 units work on ANY vehicle sold in the US or Canada since 1996, so not a Ford thing, all vehicles sold were required by law to use OBD2 protocol in there engine computers
The extension cable will fit in tight places so you don't have to remove panels to plug the unit in directly
 
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RonD the shop claims they did this and it shows nothing no code no check engine light. The hooked up to it watched short term fuel and a ton of other stuff. Then he took on a test ride and claims it shows nothing.
OBD2 Reader Bluetooth here is $100 to buy. Then he put on smoke machine 3X and nothing leaked except for IAC replaced it no change.
 

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Order one on-line or thru Walmart or other stores

You seem to want to change sensors which gets expensive, and if it was a sensor issue then it would set a code, and you said shop saw no codes.

What the LIVE DATA tells you is what the computer is "seeing" at the exact moment of any problems, this tells you if any specific sensor might have an issue, this is something a mechanic can't spend time doing it would be way to expensive for the owner of the vehicle.

Ported Vacuum leak
From the MAF sensor on the air cleaner over to the intake is the Ported vacuum plenum(air tube)
Low vacuum at idle, higher vacuum as RPMs increase
Any leaks here means not all air is going thru MAF so same issues as any other vacuum leak.
On this air tube is also the Vent tube for the PCV system.
At idle PCV Valve should be almost closed, so low vacuum in engine area(valve covers, oil pan) and air tube.
As RPMs increase PCV Valve opens more and vacuum in engine areas increase, as does Ported Vacuum.
So there is a balance
So it is important that the air tube has a good seal at both ends and no cracks, also the Vent tube and PCV Valve need to be sealed and working
 
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well found the problem. It’s got a bad head gasket ugggg.... :( So now I either part it, fix it or sell as is??
Thank you for everyone’s help
 
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