Gauges A/F ratio, Boost, and Fuel pressure
Gauges A/F ratio, Boost, and Fuel pressure
I am trying to decide what gauges to purchase. I really like Autometer gauges but open to any suggestions.
I want the gauges to be useful and easy to read.
Would an A/F ratio gauge like this one be sufficient?
Autometer 4375

or do i get this one? I mean the price difference is huge!
Autometer 4378

For Fuel pressure something like this? Honestly I am not sure what to get here.
Autometer 4363
For Boost I was thinking about going with this one..
Auto Meter 4304
I am looking for any suggestions on brand, model, just post the link up, I cant decide on any of this. I cant see spending a ton of money on it.
I want the gauges to be useful and easy to read.
Would an A/F ratio gauge like this one be sufficient?
Autometer 4375

or do i get this one? I mean the price difference is huge!
Autometer 4378

For Fuel pressure something like this? Honestly I am not sure what to get here.
Autometer 4363
For Boost I was thinking about going with this one..
Auto Meter 4304
I am looking for any suggestions on brand, model, just post the link up, I cant decide on any of this. I cant see spending a ton of money on it.
IMO autometer is good. I have them on the lightning. And for the A/F a wideband is the only way to be accurate. I use innovative products. (LM1 & duct tape was used on the ranger for tuning)
If you use a narrow band it'll only show true a/f at WOT. This is very limited and only helps at WOT... which is only 1% of the time.
Rich
If you use a narrow band it'll only show true a/f at WOT. This is very limited and only helps at WOT... which is only 1% of the time.
Rich
IMO autometer is good. I have them on the lightning. And for the A/F a wideband is the only way to be accurate. I use innovative products. (LM1 & duct tape was used on the ranger for tuning)
If you use a narrow band it'll only show true a/f at WOT. This is very limited and only helps at WOT... which is only 1% of the time.
Rich
If you use a narrow band it'll only show true a/f at WOT. This is very limited and only helps at WOT... which is only 1% of the time.
Rich
So if I need a wide band where do you install that o2 sensor? before or after the cat? is it a new senor all together or do you swap out one of the stockers?
Never have one downstream of a cat. You can do one of two things. You can unscrew the stock drivers side 02 and wire it up out of the spray of water. Then screw in the wideband.
Or you can actually tap the stock 02 wiring into the wideband. That way the PCM gets all it needs and you can have a full time in-cab wideband.
(A lot of mustang guys do it that way)
Others.. weld in an additional bung.
Rich
I can weld in an additional bung, any reason you said the drivers side vs the passenger?
My exhaust is far from stock form I welded in the o2 bungs for the stock sensors too when running my exhaust.
Also while doing some searching I saw you mentioned the Scangauge, it will read wide band? Or is that reading not what I am looking for? I have a scangauge.
My exhaust is far from stock form I welded in the o2 bungs for the stock sensors too when running my exhaust.
Also while doing some searching I saw you mentioned the Scangauge, it will read wide band? Or is that reading not what I am looking for? I have a scangauge.
The narrow band rich/lean A/F meter like the Autometer 4375 can piggyback off of the signal wire from either of the factory upsteam sensors. The narrow band gives you a vague idea about what's going on (rich, lean or stoichiometric) but you really need the actual A/F numbers from a wideband to calibrate or monitor the open loop mixture.
A wideband uses a more sophisticated sensor and it should be installed upsteam of the cats so you can use it for both closed and open loop. I changed from the 4375 to the wideband 4378 when I installed the supercharger. I had already added the extra bung to the exhaust when I did the V8 swap.
Since the late model Ranger returnless fuel system runs at about 65~70 PSI, I have the same 4363 FP gauge that you referenced above. Instead of boost only, I installed a 4301 vacuum/boost gauge that reads 30 inHg vac to 20 PSI boost.
Good gauges are not cheap but these guys have decent prices on Autometer:
http://egauges.com/
A wideband uses a more sophisticated sensor and it should be installed upsteam of the cats so you can use it for both closed and open loop. I changed from the 4375 to the wideband 4378 when I installed the supercharger. I had already added the extra bung to the exhaust when I did the V8 swap.
Since the late model Ranger returnless fuel system runs at about 65~70 PSI, I have the same 4363 FP gauge that you referenced above. Instead of boost only, I installed a 4301 vacuum/boost gauge that reads 30 inHg vac to 20 PSI boost.
Good gauges are not cheap but these guys have decent prices on Autometer:
http://egauges.com/
Like Bob said, I would recommend a boost guage that shows both boost and vac instead of just boost like you posted. Because realistically, you are aren't going to be pushing 35psi.
Something like this: http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku
Something like this: http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku
DEFI makes some great gauges, not cheap but IMO the nicest looking gauges.
http://www.nippon-seiki.co.jp/defish...bf/bf_top.html
http://www.nippon-seiki.co.jp/defish...bf/bf_top.html
thanks for the input guys.
I think I am going to go with these 2 gauges for right now.
Stewart Warner 114219 Fuel pressure gauge
Stewart Warner 114537 Boost/Vacuum Gauge
then save all my pennies for this one
Innovative Technology A/F Ratio Wide band
I think I am going to go with these 2 gauges for right now.
Stewart Warner 114219 Fuel pressure gauge
Stewart Warner 114537 Boost/Vacuum Gauge
then save all my pennies for this one
Innovative Technology A/F Ratio Wide band
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