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My wife and I are ib California this week. I'm attending a conference. We were out sightseeing today, and while at a stoplight, I couldn't help but notice the trunk lid on a new Cadillac in front of us. I just happened to have my camera, so I took a couple shots. How is this for GM quality NOT!!

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LOL, wonder if it has ever been wrecked.
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LOL, wonder if it has ever been wrecked.
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HAHA!!! gosh...im still in love with how well those lights lightup.
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u do realize thats adjustable right?
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haha they better adjust that soon before it starts pinching itself and put spider cracks in the paint
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GM used to have the worst problem with panel gaps.. my moms old '98 lumina had that same trunk lid gap, as well as other exterior panels..wont go there on some of the interior panel gaps though From what i've heard and seen they've gotten a lot better these days.
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Gm still is one of the worst at panel gaps.... My cousins 05 avalanche is just terrible, my uncle's 06 colorado is an improvement but still not that great. But all american automakers have gotten significantly better in the last 5 years or so
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Thats why they make tools. Tools fix those things.
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Thats why they make tools. Tools fix those things.
Yea but you have to remember the average person is too dumb/ lazy to even change their oil on time, let alone adjust their trunk lid.
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GM doesn't have that problem anymore on the silverado/sierra/tahoe/yukon/burb/ etc. Those gaps are all beautiful.
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I bet it was wrecked and repaired, Cadillacs usually have pretty good fit and finish. Aside from that, that car isn't new. Its a deville and they don't make those anymore...
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Gm still is one of the worst at panel gaps.... My cousins 05 avalanche is just terrible, my uncle's 06 colorado is an improvement but still not that great. But all american automakers have gotten significantly better in the last 5 years or so
GM is terrible in all aspects, as far as I'm concerned!!!

As far as being wrecked, there is no way a body shop mechanic would put it back together that bad! They would put more time in aligning the trunk lid than the monkeys in GM's assembly plants!
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GM is terrible in all aspects, as far as I'm concerned!!!

As far as being wrecked, there is no way a body shop mechanic would put it back together that bad! They would put more time in aligning the trunk lid than the monkeys in GM's assembly plants!
You have to see some of the body shops in my area. (Start Sarcasm) They do wonderful work. A++ (End Sarcasm).
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GM is terrible in all aspects, as far as I'm concerned!!!

As far as being wrecked, there is no way a body shop mechanic would put it back together that bad! They would put more time in aligning the trunk lid than the monkeys in GM's assembly plants!

that is pretty harsh.

i bet it was wrecked and that is not a new car. like mentioned above they don't make that car anymore.

also for all you know the person driving it tried to align it himself.
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^^Thank you... The only way you can criticize a vehicle is if its new on the lot (or off the line, like I see them sometimes) otherwise, that would be like seeing a Chevy chevette (which they haven't made since the 80's) and saying GM is garbage based on that 20 some year old vehicle. For as smart as you feel you are Bob, you really are very narrow minded and ignorant...
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GM is terrible in all aspects, as far as I'm concerned!!!!
In the land of the free we all have the right to our opinions. Some of us base them on something more than our emotions.

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As far as being wrecked, there is no way a body shop mechanic would put it back together that bad! They would put more time in aligning the trunk lid than the monkeys in GM's assembly plants!
Now I'm far from a UAW worker and generally am not in tune with unions. However in this statement you CLEARLY do not know what your talking about.

OEM assembly line workers are more educated, experienced, have the tools, and the quality assurance systems in place to insure this type of 60s - 70s body fittment does not happen. And for what it's worth to ya.. I own a all original 01 caddy. It's panel gaps are very good.

I know a number of OEM line workers. Not one is a intellectual "monkey". Hard working guys for the most part is what I see... and a growing number of them have 4 yr degrees too.
I also know a number of home town body shop guys... And IMO they are generally a bit more intellectualy challenged than the former.

Rich

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GM is terrible in all aspects, as far as I'm concerned!!!

As far as being wrecked, there is no way a body shop mechanic would put it back together that bad! They would put more time in aligning the trunk lid than the monkeys in GM's assembly plants!
I wouldn't say that. My truck rolled. They put a new cab on it. The only original body panel is the bed. Ask FMD how we spent WEEKS correcting what a Ford dealership didnt put back together.

Not all body shops are on equal ground..
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... And for what it's worth to ya.. I own a all original 01 caddy. ...

That says a lot!!!!!
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That says a lot!!!!!
What the hell does that mean? Are you really this ignorant Bob?
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I had an '79 Camaro with a rattle in the door. I pulled the door panel out to find a set of pliers hanging from a string inside the door.
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What the hell does that mean? Are you really this ignorant Bob?

yep, he is. very ignorant remarks all through this thread and many others.

all it would take to knock that trunk lid out would be closing the lid and something getting caught in it. that is a motorized trunk lid and they are pretty strong. Self destruction at its finest. I am not a GM fan, but caddys dont have gaps like that unless someone is careless, and it usually isnt the factory. Caddy has one of the finest paint jobs out there!
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^^^I am a lover of all American vehicles myself, but I agree. Cadillac quality is far better than that, and you are right, there paint is very high in quality.
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wow looks like the hood and doors on my ranger
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wow looks like the hood and doors on my ranger
looks like the hood and fenders on my 05 after i got it back from the body shop.
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