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How hard is it to convert manual to power windows and locks?

Hey guys I am just curious what all it would take to hook up power windows and locks into my non power anything ranger lol. Is this something pretty hard to do? I am pretty mechanically inclined and it does not seem like it would be too tough but I am not sure what all is involved. I'm sure someone on here has had to have done this before though.
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you can buy a kit, but other than that, i think all the harnesses were the same, so it should just be a matter of installing some parts. hooking up some plugs and away you go.
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when i did mine, i used oem regulators and motors. however, i wired my own switches in the center console. keeps the door panels clean that way. imho, i wouldn't even touch an aftermarket kit. they usually don't last too long.

your truck may have the wiring for locks/windows, but it may not as well.
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Thanks guys. I figured it wouldn't be too hard, and Troy, I plan to go to the salvage yards and get the entire door panels with OEM buttons and motors etc so it looks completely factory. Do you happen to have a wiring diagram of the wires that I would need to tap for the windows or door locks or both?
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that i don't jason. i just tried different combos until i got it to work. my switches are rear door switches from a mid 90s toyota.
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http://i54.tinypic.com/287bdl.jpg

its technical and junk. but that should be it.
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Wanting to do the same thing in my 97. Just want the remote door lock feature. I am gonna get a remote kit and get the oem relays and locks from my local JY. I wish there was a How-To on this...!!
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I'll figure it out one way or another lol. And if I get the power door locks wired up will I be able to use a keyless remote to unlock the doors or is there a main brain box somewhere in the truck that is needed to have a keyless remote?
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Wiring the plugs into your in-dash harness will probably be your biggest challenge because unfortunately the Rangers are not pre-wired for PW/PD/PM but the F-150s are.
If you don't mind, let me know how much your JR charges you for all the power stuff that goes in the doors.(I'm assuming they'll sell you all this stuff out of some doors that have been damaged beyond repair). I would like to do this to my 1999 because I'm installing a 2004 dash that already has the power plugs.

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I'm assuming they'll sell you all this stuff out of some doors that have been damaged beyond repair
I go to Liberty Pull a Part in Evansville., IN Not too far from you....Yeah you pull it out yourself. It is like a self serve Junkyard...

I'll be goin when the weather gets better...
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That's what we have here. It's pick n pull. Going to go pull whatever I can get and then go from there.
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Yeah don't go with none of the aftermarket **** go all oem. I went down that road once and will never go back. Passenger side power window motor went out 2 days after installing, drivers door lock motor went out 6 months after using and had 1 dead one in the box (Kit came with 4 door lock actuators) and I had to go with a aftermarket driverside mirror and the damn mirror shakes so much on bumpy roads and when my bass hits unlike the oem passenger mirror which holds still. I made all my wiring harnesses for everything and I just checked and no longer have what each terminal does.


For the door locks I would personally go with this kit http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/4-DOO...item1c1715beb0 and go to the junkyard and get the oem actuators, this way you have the wiring harness for the door locks and wireless remotes as well.

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Hey I got a Power windows/ locks harness from a 1999 4.0 4wd Automatic (I really don't think you need to change anything it to work with a manual tranny). I've got the dash harness and all of the cab harness minus those two black connectors at the end for the dome light.

Also have some tan door panels without the crank hole (power windows).
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For the door locks I would personally go with this kit
Hey Chris98. Having recommended this kit, have you actually installed this in your truck? Would this kit flash the parking lights too, or would I have to get a different kit?

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go to the junkyard and get the oem actuators, this way you have the wiring harness for the door locks and wireless remotes as well.
This is the way I was gonna go. Just not sure which kit to get. Have seen several on Ebay and even one down at Autozone.
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What people are saying about aftermarket power lock/keyless entry systems is only partially true; You get what you pay for. There are exceptionally good kits, and there are junk. You can buy garbage, & it will make you miserable, or you can buy the good stuff and enjoy the convenience it adds to your vehicle. I put power locks and keyless entry on my truck 4 or 5 years ago and it has worked flawlessly from day one. But I bought a quality kit, not the cheap stuff they sell on eBay. And yes, you can make it flash your parking/tail lights for confirmation, and/or honk the horn. I purchased my kit from A1 Electric, and I couldn't be more pleased. As for the actuators being weaker or substandard compared to OEM, again, not all of them. The ones w/ this kit are made in Switzerland and SLAM the locks open and closed. As for switches on the doors, it's not necessary on a Ranger.

Here's a photo of the keyless fob w/ my key:

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Very small, not much larger than the key handle.

It does take some time to install properly, so block a good segment of a day or 2 partial days to do it. The hardest part is installing the actuators in the door and timing them, and running the wires through the rubber boots between the cab and doors. it's not difficult, you just can't really rush the job. I enjoy stuff like this, so I didn't mind a bit.

Hope that helped your decision a little.

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2 Door Power Door Lock & AVI-2101 Keyless Entry: A1 Electric Online Store
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Thank You. That's exactly what I wanted to hear. I truly agree with you on the "get what you pay for". I've been searching for a while on this and you couldn't have answered my question any better!!

Viper has made some good quality alarm systems for years. If these are of Viper quality than they are definitely worth the extra money. I'll be happy if anything I buy would last at least 5 years. The remotes on the link you posted look a little different than your pic. Maybe they changed the design over the years??

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I noticed the different remotes. It looks to me like the buttons are made to glow in the dark. I swear yesterday when I looked @ A1's website they showed those remotes as well as different fob's that looked a little better. I would call them and ask them about different remotes. I remember when I ordered my kit they had ugly remotes as standard, and they offered the ones like I have as an upgrade, so alternatives may be available. I've even seen the ones like mine on eBay from the keyless remote resellers who generally sell oem replacement remotes.

And yes, the kit is made by the same company that makes Viper alarms. They also made all of the Sirius satellite radios until recently when Audiovox started making them. The Sirius Sportster 5 I have is made by DEI.

If you decide to go w/ a kit from A1 (or any other kit for that matter), there are pictures on A1's website of installing the actuators on a Ranger which are very helpful in figuring out proper placement.

And you're very welcome! Feel free to ask more questions here or pm me if you have any more questions about the install.
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Here's a link to the page showing placement of the actuators inside the door of a Ford Ranger:

Power Door Lock Installations, Page 2
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Yeah don't go with none of the aftermarket **** go all oem. I went down that road once and will never go back. Passenger side power window motor went out 2 days after installing, drivers door lock motor went out 6 months after using and had 1 dead one in the box (Kit came with 4 door lock actuators) and I had to go with a aftermarket driverside mirror and the damn mirror shakes so much on bumpy roads and when my bass hits unlike the oem passenger mirror which holds still. I made all my wiring harnesses for everything and I just checked and no longer have what each terminal does.


For the door locks I would personally go with this kit 4 DOOR REMOTE POWER DOOR LOCK SOLENOIDS PROCESSOR KIT - eBay (item 120646385328 end time Jan-10-11 17:54:14 PST) and go to the junkyard and get the oem actuators, this way you have the wiring harness for the door locks and wireless remotes as well.
I'm not sure what you mean. You said to get that kit and then go to the J/Y and pull some OEM actuators to use instead of the ones that come with the kit? And an OEM remote will work with them? I want to use a factory remote with my door locks. Does that require an OEM brainbox or can I use any keyless entry box and hook up the OEM actuators and use an OEM remote? I'm confused lol.
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I noticed the different remotes. It looks to me like the buttons are made to glow in the dark. I swear yesterday when I looked @ A1's website they showed those remotes as well as different fob's that looked a little better. I would call them and ask them about different remotes. I remember when I ordered my kit they had ugly remotes as standard, and they offered the ones like I have as an upgrade, so alternatives may be available. I've even seen the ones like mine on eBay from the keyless remote resellers who generally sell oem replacement remotes.

And yes, the kit is made by the same company that makes Viper alarms. They also made all of the Sirius satellite radios until recently when Audiovox started making them. The Sirius Sportster 5 I have is made by DEI.

If you decide to go w/ a kit from A1 (or any other kit for that matter), there are pictures on A1's website of installing the actuators on a Ranger which are very helpful in figuring out proper placement.

And you're very welcome! Feel free to ask more questions here or pm me if you have any more questions about the install.
Can I program a factory remote to an aftermarket unit like that? If not what do I need to get out of a ranger with factory keyless entry to be able to use the factory remotes?
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Just a FYI...I did the power door locks but never installed switches...I just use the remote because im only worried about it when im outside of the truck anyways. The install was pretty simple..I actually got an aftermarket kit used from someone on here a long time ago, and then later on I went to a viper setup. However im still using the actuators and everything works great. I feel like the power windows may be a bit more involved...I sure would love to have them though....sick of cranking..
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Yeah, door lock switches inside would be kind a silly. Especially inside a small ranger where you can reach over and unlock the other door very easily. Power windows would be cool but for me here in the midwest we either have the heat on or the AC on!! Plus the windows crank so easy, it would be quicker than to wait on the motor.

I'm goin with the Avital system mentioned earlier. I'll let everyone know how it goes. . .
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The kits from A1 are central locking, meaning when you unlock the vehicle, both unlock, and vice-versa. On Rangers, from the inside, pulling the interior door handle opens the doors regardless if they are locked or not, so switches on a Ranger would be repetitive. Also, mine don't lock when you start the vehicle. I can't recall for sure if they have that option because I wasn't interested in that feature, but i'm almost sure they will. The kits have a lot of features. I just wanted remote lock/unlock and parking light flash for confirmation.
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So does anyone know what it would take to be able to use the factory remote if I have one?
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So does anyone know what it would take to be able to use the factory remote if I have one?
You would need a factory RAPS (Remote anti-theft personality) or RKE (remote keyless entry box). On a 1999 they are in the back middle of the cab behind the jack box and carpeting. On a 2000 they are behind the passenger side kick panel. It will either be a milky white or grey color box and it will probably say remote something something on it. They also have a 5 digit number on it. The boxes are the same as 1998 up Explorers so the five digit number is the factory keypad combination for those outside keypads.

You can also grab one from a 1998-2001 up explorer. (pre 1998 use a different frequency and have an external antennae). ON an explorer they are in the back hatch area. If you open the hatch and open the panel to your left(drivers side) it will be up in the hole toward the front of the vehicle.

You would need that box and a few relays.

What the box does is ground certain wires depending on what signal is sent to the box. One for all doors locked, one for drivers side unlock, and one for all/passenger unlock.

You would need a good wiring diagram and some decent electrical knowledge to do this.
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