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Old May 17, 2011
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New headlight mod?

This guy on FTE was trying to tell us about a new headlight mod that I never heard of. Has anyone heard of it?

New Headlight Mod

If the link doesn't work, basically he's saying he added a relay (doesn't specify what kind) to the headlight harness (doesn't say where) so that when you flip to high beams both the low beam and high filament stay on.

I pulled the turn signal lever back and noticed that both filaments are on when you do that. I think it would be pretty nice to have.

Anyone have any insight?
 
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Old May 17, 2011
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I think that would be a really cool mod, but would it be legal? We need a test pig!
 
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im pretty sure newer rangers do this anyways...
 
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Old May 17, 2011
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I thought they were the same brightness in both high beam lever pulls.

hmmmm....interesting.
 
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I see a couple potential problems with this.
1 Excessive heat generation. The plastic housing along with the wiring connector may possibly melt.
2 The ground wire in the connector may not be heavy enough to handle the current for both filaments at the same time.
3 Shortened life of the low beam filament due to it's being on all the time and the excess heat generated by the high beam.
 
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Originally Posted by 98liftedranger
I think that would be a really cool mod, but would it be legal? We need a test pig!
I wouldn't think it's illegal since it's still just one bulb.

Originally Posted by ShadowRanger08
im pretty sure newer rangers do this anyways...
Mine doesn't do it

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I see a couple potential problems with this.
1 Excessive heat generation. The plastic housing along with the wiring connector may possibly melt.
2 The ground wire in the connector may not be heavy enough to handle the current for both filaments at the same time.
3 Shortened life of the low beam filament due to it's being on all the time and the excess heat generated by the high beam.
1. I thought about that. I usually don't have my high beams on for very long anyway.
2. I didn't think about that
3. I don't think it would shorten it very much, high beams aren't on for long periods of time, so the low beam filament isn't off long. My mom's 02 expo keeps low beams on all the time when the headlights are on even with high beams (2 separate bulbs)


I think it would be cool. I would be willing to try it if someone can tell me what kind of relay to get and where to put it
 
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I wonder if you could just flip the wires on the turn signal lever. from when you pull the lever to you and push it back. That way when you push it, it lights up both filaments like you want.

I'll see if I can pull the wiring diagrams
 
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Trent is the man for wiring diagrams! He gets them all!!!
 
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this isnt exactly new. I remember this being brought up before. As for the legal aspect of it, Im pretty sure in PA its a vehicle can have no more than 4 headlamp filaments on at one time. I believe this is also y when you turn your high beams on the fogs turn off. The heat of both filaments probably will mess something up alot of heat for one bulb. Also whats this do to the wiring? just throwing that one out there I dont know what the wattage rating on the bulbs are but having both on for more than just flashing cant be good for the wiring either.
 
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I'm sure the wiring can handle it, not sure if the headlight can handle the heat for a extended period of time though.
 
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My high beams are never on for long periods of time anyway. I don't think that will be an issue

I just want to know what I need to change to make it work
 
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So what do I need to do to it? And where is it? lol
 
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So what do I need to do to it? And where is it? lol
that connector is the the MFS
 
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Get a block of wood, measure the distance from the dash to the turn signal level when in the "flash to pass" position. Cut said wood to correct length. Next time you drive and want low beams and high beams jam said block of wood between dash and turn signal lever. Mod complete.
 
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Old May 18, 2011
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So do any of the more electrically inclined know what I need to do?
 
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Originally Posted by 01RangerEdge
So do any of the more electrically inclined know what I need to do?
Yes .
To avoid potential problems down the road , buy a set of fog / driving lights , install the per included instructions , and call it good.
Adding relays, splices,butt connectors , and such to the existing headlamp system is asking for trouble.
I have come up with three different ways to do this , excluding the block of wood , but the pitfalls are not worth the risk of losing the headlights completely leaving you stranded , or worse.
 
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I have come up with three different ways to do this , excluding the block of wood , but the pitfalls are not worth the risk of losing the headlights completely leaving you stranded , or worse.
HAHAHAHA, thats a legit mod right there and you know it
 
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Originally Posted by OTRtech
Yes .
To avoid potential problems down the road , buy a set of fog / driving lights , install the per included instructions , and call it good.
Adding relays, splices,butt connectors , and such to the existing headlamp system is asking for trouble.
I have come up with three different ways to do this , excluding the block of wood , but the pitfalls are not worth the risk of losing the headlights completely leaving you stranded , or worse.
I already have driving lights

If you don't mind, go ahead and share. I have spare bulbs and unless the wiring is super complicated, I could undo the mod to return them to normal.
 
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I'm going to go ahead and bump this thread.

I'm interested in seeing how this would be done. I'm not going to tear into my wiring blind. Some direction would be awesome
 
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Originally Posted by 01RangerEdge
I'm going to go ahead and bump this thread.

I'm interested in seeing how this would be done. I'm not going to tear into my wiring blind. Some direction would be awesome
ill be nice an help you out. i did it to my truck over the weekend.
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http://www.therangerstation.com/tech...y/hibeams.html
just make sure you obtain wiring digrams for your vehicle i can proved them for you just PM me
 
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Awesome. Thanks
 
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Alright guys. there is a plug and play way if you want to avoid splicing and cutting.

It's a little pricey, but worth it for some people

Brite Box

Application guide

Place to order it
 
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Old May 24, 2011
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I think your headlight switch harness would melt, depending on the wiring setup. If the all the current is going through the relay for all the lights then I don't see to much of a problem. But the stock headlight switch harness wont be able to take that much current for extended periods of time.
 
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