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SAS: affordable?

everybody has discussed these SAS swaps up front on Rangers. wut is the typical price range to do this? are you able to do the swap on an IFS 02+ Ranger? anyone that knows something, please reply. I don't want any bad mouthing. I want advice (whether bad or good) and FACTS to back up your opinion. thanks in advance

also, if the swap is feasible, could it be done in a week?
 
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theres a lot of part collecting to do.....the entire list is on orr
 
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wut is orr?
 
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Good luck with it :

www.offroadrangers.com


you might want to check out TRS

Heres a forums just for "Xtreme suspensions"

http://www.therangerstation.com/foru...p?showforum=18
 

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bad mouth - bad mouth - bad mouth - bad mouth - bad mouth - bad mouth ... etc.

I just had to do it because you said not to. TAKE THAT! HA!

I'd love to do it, but I think instead I'll just get a Cherokee and build it and keep this truck as it is.

Edit: On a more serious note: no one can tell you how feasible it is. The feasibility depends on the resources you have: money, time, sources or parts, and the skills to assemble it. Depending on your supply of these things, it may be feasible for you or not.

Generally, without a lot of help and/or skill or money to pay an expert, it's not a weekend swap, so you need to be without your truck for awhile -- keep that in mind also.
 
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good one n3elz.
im not sure i want to go through with it but im wanting a lift and IFS lifts are expensive and straight axles are good in mud. my friend across the street has a cherokee. havent had time to really look at it but it is a 96 i believe so if they still had straight axle back then. its AWD and he wants to go big so im gonna watch and help it grow.
 
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i will trade you my 1977 f150 for your ranger

it's straight axle and has a 7.5l v8...
 
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thanks for the offer trevelyn but i got my ranger how i want it except for its ground clearance and not enough power(but when is it ever enough) plus i complain enough about gas with my v6.lol. anyone else here refuse to put anything lower then plus in their truck?
 
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thanks for the offer trevelyn but i got my ranger how i want it except for its ground clearance and not enough power(but when is it ever enough) plus i complain enough about gas with my v6.lol. anyone else here refuse to put anything lower then plus in their truck?
Do you mean 93 in your tank. If so you are wasting your money. Your truck is designed for 83 you are not getting any better results from putting 93 in. You probley get worst milage.
 

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Originally Posted by loneFX4
thanks for the offer trevelyn but i got my ranger how i want it except for its ground clearance and not enough power(but when is it ever enough) plus i complain enough about gas with my v6.lol. anyone else here refuse to put anything lower then plus in their truck?
I'd put plus in my truck if I thought it was cool slowly destroying it. When my mom gets me gas(cause i can barely afford it) she offers to put plus but I don't want her to.

"Premium, in fact, sometimes is worse fuel than regular. It resists knock because it's harder to ignite than lower-octane fuels. As a result, some engines won't start as quickly or run as smoothly on premium, notes Gibbs, the SAE fuel expert.

High-test does have a potential fuel economy benefit. It is slightly denser than lower-octane gas, meaning there's a little more energy in a gallon. But the small difference is hard to measure in real-world use, and that same density can contribute to undesirable buildup of waste products inside the engine.

No data show that engines designed strictly for regular run better or longer on premium.

The Federal Trade Commission, in a consumer notice, emphasizes: "(I)n most cases, using a higher-octane gasoline than your owner's manual recommends offers absolutely no benefit. It won't make your car perform better, go faster, get better mileage or run cleaner."
source - http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/...emiumgas_x.htm
Just copied that for you. Also, addidnt additives to your gas do help though. But those bottles that you add to a full tank of gas, they clean injectors and themselves help on mileage. But you're running premium is simply a waste of money. It also probably makes you lose slight power, not enough to even notice though.
Also guys, just to combine another "performance upgrade" into the not needed category, don't upgrade your spark plugs/wires. If you're replacing them, then yes do that but the gains of new spark plugs only last a short while. And simply, you cannot upgrade spark plug wires. They have volts in the tens of thousands running through them and they are simply the best your engine can have.

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back to the SAS... if you wait around and look you can find the axle for cheap, but the whole swap take a lot of fabrication and custom built stuff, its not a bolt in thing. the bottom line is, if YOU dont have the TIME or KNOW HOW to do it yourself, youre looking at spending mucho $$$$ on having someone else do it. in which case you may find its not worth it. you could probably buy an expensive lift for your truck for less than getting an SAS to work for you well enough in a daily driver
 
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yea..ive decided not to do it. most front axles ive seen have 6" and up lifts. i dont want that much for the time being. ill be happy with a bar crank and add a leaves. need help on those matters too. like how far should i crank in matters of twists of the wrench and how not to do it. ive also had trouble find add a leaves. any help would be appreciated.

now on the gas thing i meant the middle grade. not 93 octane. ive read my owners manual cover to cover a few times and it says the truck is designed to run on regular gas but it is not recommended. the one time regular was in my truck it brought about knocking and such. so i said never again.
 
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thats strange with the gas thing, the 4.0s usually dont have any knocking problems. tomorrow ill write a nice thread on the torsion crank, id ont have time tonight. also, in the other thread i gave you the explorer pro comp part number 13120 for the add a leafs

also checked on your cams, youre looking at probably 2000 installed, custom ground. good sources tell me its not worth the money for the minimum gains youll see
 
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if u had a TTB front i could help u out. this new IFS im totally lost. seems an SAS would require a good bit fab work like welding coil buckets to the frame, track bar and lets not forget that stupid friggen rack steering...how to get that to work with the SA? i dunno...seems a big hassle.

for me on my truck its pretty simple and i can resue my coil buckets, steering and such. ill have an SAS before fall hopefully =-D

oh and christian...wanna sell ur 77?
 
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oh and christian...wanna sell ur 77?
$3500.00
 
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to bad ur in texas or id be all over that...
 
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i'll load it on a trailer and tow it up there for $.25/mile...

haha...

1600 miles x 1 quarter per mile = $400 x 2(roundtrip)...

4200(delivered)...

otherwise, i will hang onto her and keep her as my long long long term project...
 
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go for it, u have one of the best built f-150s...D44/9" with a 460...plus they are hard to find now, trust me. good luck with it
 
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Hey Trevelyn how much to Juneau, Alaska? Oh yeah, you have to take the highway into Canada to Whitehorse, then cut down to Skagway or Haines, then ferry 40 miles to Juneau. Thats like a day trip or somethin...
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i would never drive from texas to alaska... for anything... lol

anyway...

back on topic...

solid axle swaps aren't cheap...
 
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Originally Posted by Trevelyn1015
i would never drive from texas to alaska... for anything...
I'd do it just for the cost of gas! For the opportunity to drive through.. nevermind, just to SEE Alaska I'd gladly do it!

Just a comment on the octane issue. I've been putting 87 in my truck from day one and never had a problem. Everything I've seen or read says that 87 is what the truck is designed to run on. If you're having probems w/ 87 I would suggest you see a dealer!
 
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seeing as im already in the process of doing this ill add my input.
im trying to complete a sas with 8" of lift or so for like 2 grand. i have a friend who is welding for me and all the work will be done in my driveway. my parts list is as follows

long arms 800
coils 200
d30 axle free
steering box 400
custom coil buckets 100
misc metal 100
400 for everything else little like bolts and other odds and ends. and driveshaft
30 for beer for payment of the welding

i lucked out and i am getting a free axle, i also work at a hardware store and get discounts on grade 8 stuff

thats not including the 36" tires i just bought for it. which i got for 575.

you could run leafs too but i decided to run coils for their flex. have to keep up with my buddy's coil over wrangler.

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I'd do it just for the cost of gas! For the opportunity to drive through.. nevermind, just to SEE Alaska I'd gladly do it!

Just a comment on the octane issue. I've been putting 87 in my truck from day one and never had a problem. Everything I've seen or read says that 87 is what the truck is designed to run on. If you're having probems w/ 87 I would suggest you see a dealer!
Mine used to knock off road, but I reflashed it and it hasn't done that since.
 
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