For the SaS guys and people that know their steering..
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Suresh, I pretty much asked the same thing and got the idea that this is the box of "choice" to a certain extent. One reason I was told is that it's easily ported for ram assist.
Another is that it's an outside-the-rail box that works well with the Ranger because there's not a lot of room inside-the rail.
My main question was strength. I was told the earlier ones have bigger sector shafts (which is the shaft that goes to the pitman arm) and presumably bigger bearings.
The thing about IFS steering boxes is that they are isolated from certain stresses because of the way the linkage runs. They don't HAVE to be as strong, and that's why I was curious about the strength issue.
Are you having problems? I'm about to put a Dana 44 on from a '78 F-150 and I was going to use a Toyota box possibly. Sorry to turn the question back on you, but what's your take on the box your using and why do you want to change?
I just haven't spoken to anyone who's really used one long term yet.
Another is that it's an outside-the-rail box that works well with the Ranger because there's not a lot of room inside-the rail.
My main question was strength. I was told the earlier ones have bigger sector shafts (which is the shaft that goes to the pitman arm) and presumably bigger bearings.
The thing about IFS steering boxes is that they are isolated from certain stresses because of the way the linkage runs. They don't HAVE to be as strong, and that's why I was curious about the strength issue.
Are you having problems? I'm about to put a Dana 44 on from a '78 F-150 and I was going to use a Toyota box possibly. Sorry to turn the question back on you, but what's your take on the box your using and why do you want to change?
I just haven't spoken to anyone who's really used one long term yet.
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Right now the only problem Im having with it, is that the linkcage all the way up to the box. Its not straight to it. Ill have to take a picture of it and post it on here. But from the steering column it comes out straight and then it bends down its like using an extention socket on, then putting a 90 degree socket on it,then putting another extention on that, then one more 90 and the box. My friend has an F350 box Im going to see if that would work. If not maybe improve this one somehow. Ill find out more info. Thanks for your input bro!
Suresh
Suresh
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Originally Posted by zabeard
i would like to see a picture.
are you jsut afraid that with all the bends and such that it is weak?
are you jsut afraid that with all the bends and such that it is weak?
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This is why I wonder about it. Most engineers in mass production would not "over-design" a piece -- so making an IFS box as strong as a solid axle type needs to be would be spending more money than it's worth.
I think I'm going to look into a solid axle F-150 or 250 box. Should be very strong.
My only questions remain pump compatibility in terms of pressure/volume and steering shaft hookup.
I think I'm going to look into a solid axle F-150 or 250 box. Should be very strong.
My only questions remain pump compatibility in terms of pressure/volume and steering shaft hookup.
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ill have a ton more pics up after this sat
myspace - www.myspace.com/s10slayer
cardomain - http://www.cardomain.com/id/S10slayer
ill have a ton more pics up after this sat
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i have sat down and started figuin out gettin a list of parts that i can buy for my swap to get me started and i thought bout steering..
im not wanting to run a box..i am goin for 100% show look is what i want im lifting higher then normal just for that show, and details in the suspension..so my drag link will be to much at an angle..the only other set up that i can think of is hydro but i dont think that would be good for semi DD it wont be my DD but i mean ill drive it at times and stuff around town and to car shows..
i figured id ask this in this thread then start my own since we are talkin bout other options SAS steering..
nother thing..i know my stuff when it comes to yota boxes and what not and the steering concept but when it comes to hydro i get kinda lost i understand its 2 lines, pump, oil and rams..other then that im shot...
so i can either
1. get a box off something with pitman arm
2. hydro steer..
Discuss.....
im not wanting to run a box..i am goin for 100% show look is what i want im lifting higher then normal just for that show, and details in the suspension..so my drag link will be to much at an angle..the only other set up that i can think of is hydro but i dont think that would be good for semi DD it wont be my DD but i mean ill drive it at times and stuff around town and to car shows..
i figured id ask this in this thread then start my own since we are talkin bout other options SAS steering..
nother thing..i know my stuff when it comes to yota boxes and what not and the steering concept but when it comes to hydro i get kinda lost i understand its 2 lines, pump, oil and rams..other then that im shot...
so i can either
1. get a box off something with pitman arm
2. hydro steer..
Discuss.....
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you still have to have a box, and i would think still a drag link...
the yota box will work fine for you since all it is really doing is valving the oil for flow and moving the drag link, the rest of the stress is in the hydro steer.
that is why they call it hydro assist it assists the steering box in turning them big **** tires.
as far as i know its not street legal though.
the yota box will work fine for you since all it is really doing is valving the oil for flow and moving the drag link, the rest of the stress is in the hydro steer.
that is why they call it hydro assist it assists the steering box in turning them big **** tires.
as far as i know its not street legal though.
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Originally Posted by EdGe_wannabe
You don't need hydro if driven only on the road. I found out that after wheeling & when I got stuck in a ditch that it's a B!TCH to turn, I was wore out after turning.
Brenton
Brenton
but see im gunna be lifted alot more and my drag link is gunna be at to steep of an angle..so when i brake the nose will dive down and pull one way and ill have to correct it.. and there is no way for me to get that drag link to less of an angle..so i gotta figure out something else..
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