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i agree!! however i hope mr. weezl gets some sort of recovery points for all the big snow piles in the area....
weezl, if you were to triangulate the tow strap as mentioned above, I think that it would actually be better for your pulls. If you run your strap through the two loops, then connect the open ends to another tow strap - then to the other truck, you will now be breaking up the pulling stress betweem two points instead of one. Even if you get pulled out on an angle, using two hooks will still be better than only using one. The force will still be spread over the tow hooks... even if it's 70% to one hook and 30% to the other, its still better than 100% of the force to only one hook. I didn't have too many structural classes in college - nor did I retain much of the information from them, but I stand by this theory.
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weezl, if you were to triangulate the tow strap as mentioned above, I think that it would actually be better for your pulls. If you run your strap through the two loops, then connect the open ends to another tow strap - then to the other truck, you will now be breaking up the pulling stress betweem two points instead of one. Even if you get pulled out on an angle, using two hooks will still be better than only using one. The force will still be spread over the tow hooks... even if it's 70% to one hook and 30% to the other, its still better than 100% of the force to only one hook. I didn't have too many structural classes in college - nor did I retain much of the information from them, but I stand by this theory.
I'm going to guess that there's a reason ford stepped away from those older hooks and went to the new style, look at every other truck out there, they all have the same newer ford style. just loop your strap through yours if it worries you so much and use a d-ring on the other truck as it probably won't make a difference to them
I see what you're saying there. Granted I can't say for sure, I feel that it is a non-issue due to the three thick bolts per each tow hook, as well as the proximity of the point of the loop being used in relation to the cross member. If you look at the tow loops that you have, you'll see that they are angled inside towards each other... I can only imagine that the Ford engineers had the very same idea.
If it is only the perpendicular force that you are worried about, you could always weld along the sides of the factory tow loops to give it extra strength. This way you can avoid having to build your own '04 style tow hooks and know that you'll still be safe with the factory ones.
If it is only the perpendicular force that you are worried about, you could always weld along the sides of the factory tow loops to give it extra strength. This way you can avoid having to build your own '04 style tow hooks and know that you'll still be safe with the factory ones.
anyhow have fun making your own hooks
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i will, but i'm in the middle of **** i'm doing, plus i've got to wait till i've got some spare time, as i don't have a welder to make the jig at my place, it's about a half hour-45 minute drive from here, at my sister/brother-inlaw's place, and the torch to bend it at is at my brother's house, which is about 15 minutes from here... and i'm going out of town for 4 days on my next set of days off
So basically what you're saying with this thread is the following:
1. You want to know what people think of your idea.
2. You don't care what people think of your idea.
3. You want the best front recovery point(s).
4. You don't want the best front recovery point, because you don't want a front hitch.
5. You have a lot of free time, you make this big thread on here and post a lot.
6. You're very busy and have no time, too busy in fact to even drive a total of an hour for stuff you need to complete what you're talking about in said thread that you probably have about an hours worth of time invested in.
1. You want to know what people think of your idea.
2. You don't care what people think of your idea.
3. You want the best front recovery point(s).
4. You don't want the best front recovery point, because you don't want a front hitch.
5. You have a lot of free time, you make this big thread on here and post a lot.
6. You're very busy and have no time, too busy in fact to even drive a total of an hour for stuff you need to complete what you're talking about in said thread that you probably have about an hours worth of time invested in.
So basically what you're saying with this thread is the following:
1. You want to know what people think of your idea.
2. You don't care what people think of your idea.
3. You want the best front recovery point(s).
4. You don't want the best front recovery point, because you don't want a front hitch.
5. You have a lot of free time, you make this big thread on here and post a lot.
6. You're very busy and have no time, too busy in fact to even drive a total of an hour for stuff you need to complete what you're talking about in said thread that you probably have about an hours worth of time invested in.
1. You want to know what people think of your idea.
2. You don't care what people think of your idea.
3. You want the best front recovery point(s).
4. You don't want the best front recovery point, because you don't want a front hitch.
5. You have a lot of free time, you make this big thread on here and post a lot.
6. You're very busy and have no time, too busy in fact to even drive a total of an hour for stuff you need to complete what you're talking about in said thread that you probably have about an hours worth of time invested in.
So basically what you're saying with this thread is the following:
1. You want to know what people think of your idea.
2. You don't care what people think of your idea.
3. You want the best front recovery point(s).
4. You don't want the best front recovery point, because you don't want a front hitch.
5. You have a lot of free time, you make this big thread on here and post a lot.
6. You're very busy and have no time, too busy in fact to even drive a total of an hour for stuff you need to complete what you're talking about in said thread that you probably have about an hours worth of time invested in.
1. You want to know what people think of your idea.
2. You don't care what people think of your idea.
3. You want the best front recovery point(s).
4. You don't want the best front recovery point, because you don't want a front hitch.
5. You have a lot of free time, you make this big thread on here and post a lot.
6. You're very busy and have no time, too busy in fact to even drive a total of an hour for stuff you need to complete what you're talking about in said thread that you probably have about an hours worth of time invested in.
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The statement on no metal to metal contact is retarded . No offence dude but you will never ever break a properly sided d-ring used in a tow loop. You would rip the frame out from under the body first. If your talking about climbing gear It would be a completely different thing your refering too I use metal d rings on metal chains for lifting heavy equipment at work. They have to meet safety requirements and Ive never heard of the metal on metal BS
The statement on no metal to metal contact is retarded . No offence dude but you will never ever break a properly sided d-ring used in a tow loop. You would rip the frame out from under the body first. If your talking about climbing gear It would be a completely different thing your refering too I use metal d rings on metal chains for lifting heavy equipment at work. They have to meet safety requirements and Ive never heard of the metal on metal BS
So basically what you're saying with this thread is the following:
1. You want to know what people think of your idea.
2. You don't care what people think of your idea.
3. You want the best front recovery point(s).
4. You don't want the best front recovery point, because you don't want a front hitch.
5. You have a lot of free time, you make this big thread on here and post a lot.
6. You're very busy and have no time, too busy in fact to even drive a total of an hour for stuff you need to complete what you're talking about in said thread that you probably have about an hours worth of time invested in.
1. You want to know what people think of your idea.
2. You don't care what people think of your idea.
3. You want the best front recovery point(s).
4. You don't want the best front recovery point, because you don't want a front hitch.
5. You have a lot of free time, you make this big thread on here and post a lot.
6. You're very busy and have no time, too busy in fact to even drive a total of an hour for stuff you need to complete what you're talking about in said thread that you probably have about an hours worth of time invested in.
The statement on no metal to metal contact is retarded . No offence dude but you will never ever break a properly sided d-ring used in a tow loop. You would rip the frame out from under the body first. If your talking about climbing gear It would be a completely different thing your refering too I use metal d rings on metal chains for lifting heavy equipment at work. They have to meet safety requirements and Ive never heard of the metal on metal BS
Exactly. x2 @ you and x2 @ Carl. I don't think the guy is aware of what we use in the steel industry...metal on metal crap rated to lift 50 tons or 10tons. No way would a ranger of 4500# come anywhere close to that. The front x-member would rip off before the hooks themselves get damaged.
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From: Calgary AB, Canada
i really don't care what you guys think, i was always taught not to do metal on metal, if you want to do that, go right ahead... just like i'm sure none of you ever smoke, while pouring gas into a fuel cell, from a jerry can or something like that... i know well enough, that it's not going to ignite gas, so i don't care... i didn't open this thread to make a debate about how to proplerly hook a rope to your truck, i posted an idea i have, for hooks, that i AM going to make, when i have the time to do it...
as for me having enough time to come online here and post, but not enough to work on my truck, i am on here a lot at work, when i have down time, and when i'm not at work, i am only on here for like half hour to an hour at a time, for the most part, which wouldn't even cover my travel time to go to where the welder i can use is
so like i said, quit your *****ing and criticizing me about how to rig up a truck, as i'm going to continue doing it the same way as i always have, and i'm sure you all are going to do it as you always have... take your macho pissing contest somewhere else
as for me having enough time to come online here and post, but not enough to work on my truck, i am on here a lot at work, when i have down time, and when i'm not at work, i am only on here for like half hour to an hour at a time, for the most part, which wouldn't even cover my travel time to go to where the welder i can use is
so like i said, quit your *****ing and criticizing me about how to rig up a truck, as i'm going to continue doing it the same way as i always have, and i'm sure you all are going to do it as you always have... take your macho pissing contest somewhere else
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From: Calgary AB, Canada
how little i know about exactly what? that the loops on my truck are not what i want?
this thread is off topic, if you would like to continue this conversation, feel free to pm me
this thread is off topic, if you would like to continue this conversation, feel free to pm me
