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I've settled on 5W-40 Rotella-T for all my Fords, as well as Motorcraft filters. The Rotella-T formula still has one of the best doses of Zinc on the market, and the added detergents are also a plus.

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What brand/grade of 15-50 do you use?
If you have a notion of using 15-50 in your Ranger I highly recommend against it. In Georgia's milder climates you might get away with that, but in Michigan things tend to get a little colder, as I'm sure you are aware. A 15W weight oil is just too darn thick for those occasional very cold morning starts.
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If you have a notion of using 15-50 in your Ranger I highly recommend against it.
As a OEM engineer w/engine engineering experience and having built my own race engines..

Point noted.

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10 + bucks and filter really well. They are meant for racing applications. They have a crazy burst strength of 550 psi, and a 1 inch nut on the bottom for easy install.

I bought one once and it wouldn't thread onto my truck. The inlet screw thingy was too small.
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As a OEM engineer w/engine engineering experience and having built my own race engines..

Point noted.

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I guess you probably know a little bit about motor oil then...lol
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I bought one once and it wouldn't thread onto my truck. The inlet screw thingy was too small.


Sounds like you got the wrong size. Someone may have swapped filters in the box on you.

Granted I ran one on my f150, but it was the same filter for my 4.0.
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^^^ Just because you never had any issues with Fram doesn't mean they aren't junk. There are other filters out there that are comparatively priced so there isn't any need to run them IMO. I personally don't want cardboard in my oil filter, and thats what fram uses...
I was just saying you can't believe everything you read. If the filters where junk they wouldn't be the best selling brand and the company would not be in business.
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JT, I am not going to argue with you, thats the last thing I want. However, I know for a fact that they are junk. My old man argued with me forever about how thats all he use to use. Things change, materials and quality change, just because they were great filters 15,20,30 years ago, doesn't mean they are now. You can run what you want, but since the motorcraft filter is the same price, I would suggest running it instead, it isn't like its going to cost you more....
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As a OEM engineer w/engine engineering experience and having built my own race engines..
Point noted.
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As an aerospace machinist I work with engineers all day long.....nuf said
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^^ That makes no sense at all....
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"I work with engineers all day long.....nuf said"
Actually it does make sence Chris.. if you know how typical "engineers" are. Book smart and can't machine / wrench thier way out of a paper bag.

My point is that I'm just as good at application as I am at theory.

btw, Fram filters are a entry level product. (ie junk) The case is not as thick, the filter media has less surface area, and at times they don't include a drain back valve where as the more expensive ones do.

Got a good friend who spun a rod bearing in a 327 because of this lack of quality. The case blew out and it lost pressure.

Personally, I use pure-o-later pure one on everything I can. If it's not avail I'll use motorcraft (or AC delco for the caddy).

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I see, I misunderstood I guess... I use to be a engineer, if that matters...lol
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I was just saying you can't believe everything you read. If the filters where junk they wouldn't be the best selling brand and the company would not be in business.
The ONLY reason why they are "the best selling brand" is b/c they spend so much money on advertisment. You ever seen a Wix filter commercial? Maybe during a race, but thats it. If you want to filter your oil through cardboard tied together with a peice of string, be my guest.

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its his deal man, I mean he could just as easily buy another brand for the same price, but if he chooses not to, oh well, its not my truck...
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its his deal man, I mean he could just as easily buy another brand for the same price, but if he chooses not to, oh well, its not my truck...
Well said Chris. It aint my ride either...
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well i have aloways used fram just from seeing my dad use them , never thought twice about it till i started reading more about them , ill probly start with wix or motorcraft
next as for oil i am going with either valvoline max life or max life blend
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10 + bucks and filter really well. They are meant for racing applications. They have a crazy burst strength of 550 psi, and a 1 inch nut on the bottom for easy install.



Motorcraft FL1A (made by purolater)

Mobil 1 extended life oil

The k&n and the ford racing oil filters are a useless expense (unless you love throwing money down the toilet) i mean max psi your ranger will ever see ever is maybe 70-80psi and i doubt that would ever happen. The only people that need those filters are race dry sump engines.

I use motorcraft filters on all my fords because thats what it came with from the factory so thats what ill use also use motorcraft oil and change it every 2-3k never over 3 though. And i would bet that you take someone that changes there oil with the cheapest bulk oil there is every 2k and compare there 100k engine with a guy that uses any other synthetic, heavy weight, expensive oil every 3-5k the cheaps guy engine will look the same if not better as far as sludge and bearing wear goes.
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I use the cheap oil from Wal-mart. The blue 5 quart bottle for like 6.87 or what ever it is. I change my oil every three months and I only put on an average of 500 miles a month so im not too worried.

I use fram filters and once again I dont put on that many miles so Im not too worried
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i use royal purple in my truck... mainly cuz i can get cases for free from the owner of RP. ill use a motorcraft or wix filter tho.
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I see, I misunderstood I guess... I use to be a engineer, if that matters...lol
....it must work I read it in a book is engineering 101.
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"I work with engineers all day long.....nuf said"
Actually it does make sence Chris.. if you know how typical "engineers" are. Book smart and can't machine / wrench thier way out of a paper bag.
Yes you do understand.
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Sounds like you got the wrong size. Someone may have swapped filters in the box on you.

Granted I ran one on my f150, but it was the same filter for my 4.0.
I picked out what the computer said to get for a 2001 Ford edge 4x4 4.0L SOHC. The Mobile one bolted right up.
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I use fram filters and once again I dont put on that many miles so Im not too worried
I am sorry but this is a ridiculous statement. So you use fram filters but its ok because you only use it for 1500 miles? I am sorry, but that is retarded. Using them at all isn't a good idea, plan and simple...
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I am sorry but this is a ridiculous statement. So you use fram filters but its ok because you only use it for 1500 miles? I am sorry, but that is retarded. Using them at all isn't a good idea, plan and simple...
They make great stocking stuffers for those people you don't like, but have to get a gift. You can also think of them as a wonderful paper wieght.
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I am sorry but this is a ridiculous statement. So you use fram filters but its ok because you only use it for 1500 miles? I am sorry, but that is retarded. Using them at all isn't a good idea, plan and simple...
I dont run them too long and I dont run my engine that hard so they should stand up. I only drive about 12 miles a day and I have only made 3 trips over 200 miles with it. I hardly ever floor it. I see no problem with them.

We use them on the car and the van and those are driven much harder then the truck. 50 miles a day on each, they get changed every 4-5k. Never had a problem with them.

I think your the retarded one because you think that if its cheap its crap. If I was towing a trailer alot, and mudding once a week, and had 600 pounds in the bed I would probably spend the $10 for a K&N or a motorcraft filter, but I dont so I dont see the need.

And until I see 2 or more that have had trouble on my own rig Im not changing to another brand.

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JT, I am not going to argue with you, thats the last thing I want. However, I know for a fact that they are junk. My old man argued with me forever about how thats all he use to use. Things change, materials and quality change, just because they were great filters 15,20,30 years ago, doesn't mean they are now. You can run what you want, but since the motorcraft filter is the same price, I would suggest running it instead, it isn't like its going to cost you more....
I really don't want to argue either since we can probably keep this going for pages and pages. We are all entitled to our opinions and I respect yours, and that folks, is what makes this site the best. We can have different opinions and still get along without resorting to name calling or petty sarcastic remarks.

Use the a filter that you feel comfortable with, whether it is a motorcraft, K&N, fram, wix. Like goose said it is your truck. And everyone will say what they use on there truck is the best. I vary between fram and K&N(which raises my oil pressure drastically for some reason). Never seen wix in my area and I don't like our local dealer for the motorcraft filters.
Anyone use Purolator? Never tried these.
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