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Old Oct 30, 2010
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At the very least you should look into bracing the d30 housing. Its a proven fact even people who never take their Jeeps off roading can end up with a bent housing or twist the tubes right out of the center. And I would replace the stock diff since the spider gears are weak and bittle.
 
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Old Oct 30, 2010
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I'll be adding bracing for sure and all the inner parts will be replaced. The only thing I'm keeping is the axle housing and axle shafts. Bearings, gears, u-joints and such will all be new.
 
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Old Oct 31, 2010
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Travis,

How big of a tire are you planning on running?
 
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Old Oct 31, 2010
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Pulled apart the D30 and yeah, way smaller than I thought it was. Ring gear looks smaller than the ford 7.5 rear. Guess you guys are right I'll break it.

So if I go to a D44 I'll have the 5 on 5 bolt pattern. Since I only want to have one bolt pattern for the spare tire should I ditch the ford 8.8 and get the D44 rear?

I'm running a 32x11.50 right now. Can't see myself ever going over a 33"
 
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Old Oct 31, 2010
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get adapters to run on the 8.8 the dana 44 is weaker than an 8.8. i think you might even be able to get the right length shafts for the the 5x5 pattern
 
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Old Oct 31, 2010
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Are you sure the pattern is not 5x5.5? iirc the 5x5 is on half ton chevy 2x4's
 
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Old Nov 1, 2010
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D44 out of any older Ford will be 5x5.5

You can get adapters for the 5x4.5 8.8 to 5x5.5 or you can run a 8.8 out of a f150.

If you go with a HP d44 out of a older Ford it will be alot wider than the Ex 8.8

They are the same or close enough to the full size 8.8 out of F series.Or you can find a D44 out of an early Bronco and it will share the width with the Ex 8.8
 
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Old Nov 1, 2010
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Travis, I say stick with the 8.8. It is stronger than a D44. I was going to go with a D44 rear until I did some reading and searching and found that it is weaker. I have a D44 front axle and waiting to be installed is an 31 spline 8.8 with c-clip eliminators, and custom shafts to match my 6x5.5 bolt pattern on my Waggy front axle. I'm running leafs all around and love them! Flex well and it sits pretty level.

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If you want to keep it simple and cheaper get a D44 from a Wagoneer and then get a rear D44 from a Rodeo, same bolt pattern and disc brakes. I'm sticking with the 8.8 but this was my plan before I changed my mind.

I don't know if you're interested but I will be selling my 28 spline 8.8 soon. Lock-Right, 5.13 gears, and a Solid diff cover. Will let it go cheap if you're interested. Gears have less than 10k miles on them. I also have the adapters for the rear axle too 5x4.5 to 6x5.5 pattern. Width is great to match the front. I'm local too.

The axle shaft strength (tested by Warn Ind.) is as follows:
F8.8= 6,500 (lb. ft.)
D44= 4,600-5,000 (lb. ft.)
D35C= 4,000-4,300 (lb. ft.)

COT: Continuous output torque rating
MOT: Maximum output torque rating

Numbers from January edition of Fourwheeler, page 60.

Dana 35 rear axle COT: 870 MOT: 3480
Dana 44 rear axle COT: 1100 MOT: 4460
Ford 8.8 28spline COT: 1250 MOT: 4600
Ford 8.8 31spline COT: 1360 MOT: 5100
Dana60 semifloat COT: 1500 MOT: 5500
 

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Old Nov 1, 2010
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there are a few members with d 30s on here. Razors edge has one and runs 35s and is always out crawling around. its all in your driving style. however i cant help but think since your running with a bit more wight it wouldnt work out. i think a waggoneer 44 would be better scince your running leaves, alot of the HP 44's have cast peices on the axles and cannot be welded well enough. then you can get adapters for the rear on your 8.8 to match the width and the bolt pattern.
 
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Old Nov 1, 2010
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Exactly Dan! The width is good, it's low pinion, but you don't wheel hardcore and even if you did it would survive.

Spring over or spring under? What leafs do you want to run?
 
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Old Nov 1, 2010
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Aside form the multiple weak points in the HP Dana30 the reverse roation is another problem that limits the Dana30's strength. I actually went with a LP Dana44 out built for a xj/tj from G2. But I am not running leaf springs.

here are the articles i read before choosing an axle.

Dana 30

Dana 44
 
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Old Nov 3, 2010
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i was rolling down the street, heading to UNLV, and i see this white ranger with a weird *** camper.. .hahah. im assuming you were on your way to SEMA. which had to suck cause traffic was extremely bad this morning. Im sad i can't go this year....
 
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Old Nov 3, 2010
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x2 i won't be there either =/ i really really wanna see this truck though!!!
 
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Old Nov 3, 2010
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mini vegas meet???
 
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Old Nov 3, 2010
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I was at SEMA for the first time earlier today and did not see this truck, ne clue where it would be at?
 
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Old Nov 6, 2010
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Originally Posted by My91Ranger
I was at SEMA for the first time earlier today and did not see this truck, ne clue where it would be at?
well when i saw him it was mid day on wednesday so he might actually not be on show case this year.. just attending cause his company has extra tickets???
 
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Old Nov 12, 2010
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I may have to put the axle swap on hold. The motor clunking is getting louder. Just put some heavier weight oil in the motor to make it last a bit longer. Unfortunately I may have to just rebuild the 4 banger as I still haven't found a diesel.


Yep, I was up in Vegas for the SEMA Show. I didn't have my truck in the show this year since its pretty haggard still from Mexico. I mostly went to meet a few people who came in from out of country for some projects I'm working on, and to meet manufacturers and such. Apologies if I didn't notice anyone, as I was wiped out still from working a month strait on a customers project.

Safari Pacific - Customer Projects - Jim's Camper

 
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Old Nov 15, 2010
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That's a pretty wiled looking camper, nice work.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2010
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thats a sweet set up period!
 
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Old Nov 15, 2010
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that is some rugged ****!
 
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Old Nov 20, 2010
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Originally Posted by winks
That's a pretty wiled looking camper, nice work.
Thanks!
 
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Old Nov 20, 2010
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The motor committed suicide last Thursday and now sitting half pulled apart at the shop. I'm starting to get tired of working on the thing and not getting anywhere.
 
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Old Nov 20, 2010
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Some photos of tearing the motor apart and front suspension.







 
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Old Nov 21, 2010
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I haven't had a chance to read the whole thread but I do hope, for a trip around the world, that your carrying at least 2 spare tires and rims, if not 3.. Ideally, I think a guy would want an air compressor and a portable (possibly underhood) welder as well.. I'd take an extra battery, spindle, bearings, spool of heavy gauge wire, bailing wire, hose clamps, nuts/bolts, DUCT TAPE (lol), and anything else that I could fit in that rig.

I applaud your work and tenacity though! NOT HATING ON YA..


GB :)
 
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Old Nov 21, 2010
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A underhood welder would be awesome haha
 
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