has anybody tried doing an exhaust this way?
has anybody tried doing an exhaust this way?
i was thinking maybe you could put true duals on a ranger... like where the headers come down and join together, cut that and angle them towards the back that way it isn't always a 1-2 exhaust and it would be a TRUE dual header/dual end exhaust. has anybody tried it? i really would like to do one this way and eventually get the raptor 1-piece kit for it. i have a 96 ford ranger xlt 4.0l 4x4 so let me know if you've tried it!
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Its never a good idea to run TRUE duals on rangers. You will have backpressure issues, and loose lots of power.
A member up here purchaed a ranger with TRUE duals, and he posted a thread up here telling us that his truck was gutless from a standstill. He returned the exhaust to stock, and re-gained his hp.
A member up here purchaed a ranger with TRUE duals, and he posted a thread up here telling us that his truck was gutless from a standstill. He returned the exhaust to stock, and re-gained his hp.
well unless i get more than one comment saying don't do it, then i'll more than likely do it because i want to be able to hear my truck run. i am constantly looking at the rpm gauge to make sure it is still running due to how quiet the exhaust is.
running true duals gives no gains unless you do the WHOLE system, by that i mean, Headers, pipes, mufflers. and then your looking at spending some real money there and unless you've got a 302/5.0 stuffed under the hood, it isn't worth it.
i had a 2000 3.0 with the flowmaster 40 series muffller but duals from the muffler back didnt sound to bad.. the way i learned for exhaust was to watch alot of youtube videos to see what prefer in sound. plan to get a 40 series on the 05.
That's what i have. Si/Do Flowmaster 40 on my 3.0. Got a real nice deep tone to it.
i loved the sound but i hated that ranger i felt the 3.0 had no power and idk if its was because i had serious tranny problams or not but it wasnt no 4.0.. ill probly just get the 40 miffler and swap them out on my new one. lil cheaper hopefully same sound. or close to it.
You want louder? buy a flowmaster.
running true duals gives no gains unless you do the WHOLE system, by that i mean, Headers, pipes, mufflers. and then your looking at spending some real money there and unless you've got a 302/5.0 stuffed under the hood, it isn't worth it.
running true duals gives no gains unless you do the WHOLE system, by that i mean, Headers, pipes, mufflers. and then your looking at spending some real money there and unless you've got a 302/5.0 stuffed under the hood, it isn't worth it.
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Charles, if you want to hear your truck run, then I can recommend a Flowmaster Super 10 (loudest flowmaster available) The next step louder would be straight pipe exhaust.
I have a super 10 on my truck now, and its pretty loud. I will warn you though, the drone on the highway can get annoying at times. Im barely on the higway, so Im good lol.
I have a super 10 on my truck now, and its pretty loud. I will warn you though, the drone on the highway can get annoying at times. Im barely on the higway, so Im good lol.
Charles, if you want to hear your truck run, then I can recommend a Flowmaster Super 10 (loudest flowmaster available) The next step louder would be straight pipe exhaust.
I have a super 10 on my truck now, and its pretty loud. I will warn you though, the drone on the highway can get annoying at times. Im barely on the higway, so Im good lol.
I have a super 10 on my truck now, and its pretty loud. I will warn you though, the drone on the highway can get annoying at times. Im barely on the higway, so Im good lol.
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Which pipes are you talking about? If you are doing it yourself, an auto-parts store might have the piping that you need.
If a muffler shop is doing the work, then they will have the piping.
Most auto parts stores will carry the pipes. when i got rid of my catalytic, i picked up my pipe from my local auto parts store.
haven't decided if i'm doing it myself or if i'm taking it to a shop... my dad bought my truck so he's probably going to want me and him to do it together but he MIGHT take it to a muffler shop. does the shop charge you for the piping? also about how much do you think piping would cost to do duals back from the flowmaster?
i went to advanced and picked up a thrush glasspack and my truck sounds great. try it first it was only $22
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I welded a thrush turbo muffler on a buddy's 3.1 engine the other day. It sounds pretty good. And a lot cheaper than other mufflers.
Whoever said putting a true dual system will hurt power, it's not quite that simple.
In order to maintain power in the range you're operating in, you need to maintain exhaust velocity. For most street driven vehicles, this is at lower RPM range. For this, the total cross-section area needs to be smaller than if you are running higher RPMs. Whether or not it's a single or a dual system isn't entirely relevant to this. However, since most people will just throw the same diameter pipes on, you are effectively doubling your cross-section area by going duals. To do it properly, you have to downsize your pipes significantly if you go to duals. For a 4 cylinder, you'd be going down to very small pipe (probabaly 1") to avoid losing power. Duals on a 4 banger are silly, anyways. You're talking 2 cylinders per pipe. For a 4.0, you can do this without going that small, but you still can't run similar sized pipes to a V8 with duals. On a 3.0, it's still going to be fairly small piping.
Also, you can run into problems because of the inbalance in pressure/velocity between the sides of the engine (in a V engine). This is why most dual exhaust systems still use a balance pipe between them close to the engine, so that the uneven balance of pressure/velocity gets balanced out a little bit (if you look at the firing patterns of V6 and V8 engines, this will make more sense to you).
Hope this helps make a decision.
In order to maintain power in the range you're operating in, you need to maintain exhaust velocity. For most street driven vehicles, this is at lower RPM range. For this, the total cross-section area needs to be smaller than if you are running higher RPMs. Whether or not it's a single or a dual system isn't entirely relevant to this. However, since most people will just throw the same diameter pipes on, you are effectively doubling your cross-section area by going duals. To do it properly, you have to downsize your pipes significantly if you go to duals. For a 4 cylinder, you'd be going down to very small pipe (probabaly 1") to avoid losing power. Duals on a 4 banger are silly, anyways. You're talking 2 cylinders per pipe. For a 4.0, you can do this without going that small, but you still can't run similar sized pipes to a V8 with duals. On a 3.0, it's still going to be fairly small piping.
Also, you can run into problems because of the inbalance in pressure/velocity between the sides of the engine (in a V engine). This is why most dual exhaust systems still use a balance pipe between them close to the engine, so that the uneven balance of pressure/velocity gets balanced out a little bit (if you look at the firing patterns of V6 and V8 engines, this will make more sense to you).
Hope this helps make a decision.
if you do it get cats and mufflers i would like to see it done i have my s10 set up for true duals and i loved the sound of it. i was running gutted cats and glass packs and it sounded pretty good
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