Engine Noise 2004 4.0
Engine Noise 2004 4.0
My truck started making a noise when I left work today. It sounds like a baseball card in bicycle spokes. It makes this noise while idling as well as driving. The "clicking" intensifies with the throttles and then when the engine reaches higher RPMs it crescendos into a short of "rattlesnake" like sound. I pulled over and looked, nothing in the fan, belts look fine, it sounds like it's coming from the top of the motor in the back towards the cab.
Any ideas?
Any ideas?
+1 ^^^
Google: 4.0l SOHC timing chain rattle
2001 Rangers and up had the 4.0l SOHC engines, to 2004/5 they had older designed Tensioners that would fail.
This would cause timing chain to hit against the chain guides(cassettes), these would eventually start to break apart and you would start to hear the "rattle".
So the rattle is the end phase of the problem, not the start.
You can try installing new tensioners, you need them in any case, and it may allow you to get a few more miles on it before having to repair it, but may not.
You have to pull out the engine to fix/change rear timing chain.
One thing you can try just to make sure it isn't a belt/accessory issue
When engine is cold loosen and remove fan belt from Crank pulley
Start engine
Battery light will stay on because alternator is not turning.
Listen for the rattle noise
If you still hear it then it is timing chain noise
Don't run engine more than 2 minutes this way, water pump is also not turning
Google: 4.0l SOHC timing chain rattle
2001 Rangers and up had the 4.0l SOHC engines, to 2004/5 they had older designed Tensioners that would fail.
This would cause timing chain to hit against the chain guides(cassettes), these would eventually start to break apart and you would start to hear the "rattle".
So the rattle is the end phase of the problem, not the start.
You can try installing new tensioners, you need them in any case, and it may allow you to get a few more miles on it before having to repair it, but may not.
You have to pull out the engine to fix/change rear timing chain.
One thing you can try just to make sure it isn't a belt/accessory issue
When engine is cold loosen and remove fan belt from Crank pulley
Start engine
Battery light will stay on because alternator is not turning.
Listen for the rattle noise
If you still hear it then it is timing chain noise
Don't run engine more than 2 minutes this way, water pump is also not turning
If it is a timing chain that is rattling, then yes you will eventually have to replace the chains, there are 3 chains on 2WD Rangers and 4 on 4x4 Ranger(counter-balancer shaft inside engine).
Changing the rear chain requires pulling out the engine, and the rear one is the one that usually rattles/fails first
Changing the rear chain requires pulling out the engine, and the rear one is the one that usually rattles/fails first
The mechanic says it is indeed the tensioners. I asked if I should then need to replace the chains and he said no. How should I answer this? If they fix the tensioners would the chain then break spontaneously down the line?
Last edited by TKOtokyo; Mar 17, 2017 at 12:35 PM. Reason: Word
It's such a big job that it doesn't make sense not to replace the chains and sprockets.
Chains do "wear", they become longer as each link union wears, this causes the chain to grow in length.
When this happens, the chains don't fit on the sprockets correctly any more which can be noisy too.
Not as much noise as worn guides, but some.
The sprockets do wear with the chain, but the chain always wears more then the sprockets, that's why when you're in there, it's a good idea to replace everything.
Chains do "wear", they become longer as each link union wears, this causes the chain to grow in length.
When this happens, the chains don't fit on the sprockets correctly any more which can be noisy too.
Not as much noise as worn guides, but some.
The sprockets do wear with the chain, but the chain always wears more then the sprockets, that's why when you're in there, it's a good idea to replace everything.
That's hard to say, but in all my years, working on engines with timing chains, I've never had one fail before.
It would have to get quite noisy to hear it over the regular engine noise.
I'm sure Ron would know more then I do.
It would have to get quite noisy to hear it over the regular engine noise.
I'm sure Ron would know more then I do.
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