Finally Put A New Diesel In My Garage!
i do too, it'd be nice to see a awd w/ manual. there was one i saw, it was a I4 and had a stick but it had a dealer added body kit and those chrome 5stars and the car was t*ts! they wanted $25k for it.
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Thanks guys. I really like it, and my wife loves it. Being that it is her daily driver that is pretty important!
Not to argue more BS, but just for kicks, the Golf TDI four door is $4k less than a base model fusion hybrid, gets better highway economy, and the 5 year cost of ownership is estimated to be $4,400 less according to Edmunds. Standard equipment is pretty comparable on both. The Golf weighs almost 700 lbs less, turning radius is almost two feet less, overall length is 25" shorter, has more head room front and rear, more luggage capacity. Not to mention the fusion has a boring *** CVT instead of six speed manual or optional DSG auto. The Fusion is couple inches wider so it could fit three in back more comfortably, three would be crammed in the back of the Golf. The Fusion has about 1" extra leg room front and back, but in the Golf I can adjust the front seat so that I am comfortable, and still have plenty of room in back and I'm 6' tall. The warranty is mostly the same, however the Golf has a 12 year unlimited mileage rust warranty where the Fusion is only 5 years. 0-60 is basically the same, however load up the heavy hybrid next to the TDI that makes 236 Lb-Ft of torque at 1,750 RPM and I bet the TDI pulls away.
If you are the hippie type, you might also note that hybrids are using a butt load of rare earth metals, generally mined in other counties, shipped to another country for refinement, shipped to another country to make them into a battery, then shipped back here. Disposing of the battery is a big concern to the environment and they are not going to be cheap when they go bad. Might as well scrap the car 8 years down the road when the battery is done. I hardly think that the hybrid drivetrain will outlast the average VW TDI drivetrain, especially with a manual transmission.
I will say that I haven't driven the Fusion Hybrid, but I have driven the standard fusion and the fusion sport, as well as Escape Hybrids. Aside from the extra power that the Sport had, the Golf TDI beats the fusion hands down for driving experience in my opinion. It is much lighter and more nimble feeling. The front seats are also more supportive. The Fusion is a little more plush I suppose, so it just depends on what you like. I prefer a sportier ride rather than a heavy sedan feeling like the Fusion has and the Legacy GT had.
Again, none of that really matter that much to us. We just have no interest in a boring expensive hybrid. Switching to a more fuel efficient car is nice though, seeing as my wife is on pace for over 18k miles per year right now of mostly highway driving. Diesel here is the same as premium gas right now, which the Subaru required.
My wife likes the fact that the Golf is so much smaller on the outside, without having a cramped and cheap interior like so many econoboxes. It really is much more roomy than you would expect by looking at it, but very easy to park and fit in small spaces. When my wife's Prius owning co-workers rode in the car with her, they both said "I thought Golfs were supposed to be really small...?" So far it doesn't seem to sacrifice much of anything. If you read any reviews out there, everyone comments on how stable and quiet the car is up to and well over 100mph, unlike most any other cars here. It holds it's own and doesn't get blown around or plagued with wind noise like the Legacy GT did and so many other cars do. It doesn't suffer horrible understeer more most cars in North America either.
I drove a 2010 Jetta TDI and didn't like it at all on the other hand. It is on the older MKV platform still, and it rides like a boat in comparison. It felt completely different. Most people wouldn't mind it but it just wasn't sporty handling.
Not to argue more BS, but just for kicks, the Golf TDI four door is $4k less than a base model fusion hybrid, gets better highway economy, and the 5 year cost of ownership is estimated to be $4,400 less according to Edmunds. Standard equipment is pretty comparable on both. The Golf weighs almost 700 lbs less, turning radius is almost two feet less, overall length is 25" shorter, has more head room front and rear, more luggage capacity. Not to mention the fusion has a boring *** CVT instead of six speed manual or optional DSG auto. The Fusion is couple inches wider so it could fit three in back more comfortably, three would be crammed in the back of the Golf. The Fusion has about 1" extra leg room front and back, but in the Golf I can adjust the front seat so that I am comfortable, and still have plenty of room in back and I'm 6' tall. The warranty is mostly the same, however the Golf has a 12 year unlimited mileage rust warranty where the Fusion is only 5 years. 0-60 is basically the same, however load up the heavy hybrid next to the TDI that makes 236 Lb-Ft of torque at 1,750 RPM and I bet the TDI pulls away.
If you are the hippie type, you might also note that hybrids are using a butt load of rare earth metals, generally mined in other counties, shipped to another country for refinement, shipped to another country to make them into a battery, then shipped back here. Disposing of the battery is a big concern to the environment and they are not going to be cheap when they go bad. Might as well scrap the car 8 years down the road when the battery is done. I hardly think that the hybrid drivetrain will outlast the average VW TDI drivetrain, especially with a manual transmission.
I will say that I haven't driven the Fusion Hybrid, but I have driven the standard fusion and the fusion sport, as well as Escape Hybrids. Aside from the extra power that the Sport had, the Golf TDI beats the fusion hands down for driving experience in my opinion. It is much lighter and more nimble feeling. The front seats are also more supportive. The Fusion is a little more plush I suppose, so it just depends on what you like. I prefer a sportier ride rather than a heavy sedan feeling like the Fusion has and the Legacy GT had.
Again, none of that really matter that much to us. We just have no interest in a boring expensive hybrid. Switching to a more fuel efficient car is nice though, seeing as my wife is on pace for over 18k miles per year right now of mostly highway driving. Diesel here is the same as premium gas right now, which the Subaru required.
My wife likes the fact that the Golf is so much smaller on the outside, without having a cramped and cheap interior like so many econoboxes. It really is much more roomy than you would expect by looking at it, but very easy to park and fit in small spaces. When my wife's Prius owning co-workers rode in the car with her, they both said "I thought Golfs were supposed to be really small...?" So far it doesn't seem to sacrifice much of anything. If you read any reviews out there, everyone comments on how stable and quiet the car is up to and well over 100mph, unlike most any other cars here. It holds it's own and doesn't get blown around or plagued with wind noise like the Legacy GT did and so many other cars do. It doesn't suffer horrible understeer more most cars in North America either.
I drove a 2010 Jetta TDI and didn't like it at all on the other hand. It is on the older MKV platform still, and it rides like a boat in comparison. It felt completely different. Most people wouldn't mind it but it just wasn't sporty handling.
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I drove a four cylinder manual transmission Fusion as well, it was just way too slow. lol
Are you kidding? Have you driven a Hybrid? They suck old man *****. The are PAINfully slow, ride like garbage, look even worse, the interiors of most are a disgusting attempt of a kids idea of what a space ship should like look, the seats blow, I could go on and on. Every hybrid I have driven meets the definition of a penalty box. Plainly stated, they are NOT driver's cars. They are economy cars from top to bottom and feel like it. Drive a new Golf TDI and you well see that while it is economical, is isn't anything like an economy car. It is actually very comfortable and fun to drive.
Besides, we didn't buy it for mileage alone. I mean my truck gets 12-15mpg and I could care less. We looked at GTIs but I was somewhat unimpressed and the I4 gasser sounded almost ricey to me.
A couple of my wife's coworked bought new Priuses (Priuii? lol) over the last six months and the both hate them and complain about them constantly. They say that they are horribly slow, uncomfortable, crappy ride, funky brakes, and aren't getting as good of mileage as they claim to. Both of them said that they were super jealous when my wife brought this to work.
Edit: I will say that Ford has been making nice cars. I like the fusion sport but you can't get it with a manual transmission because Ford has their heads up there as$es on that one. The Fiesta will probably sell okay, and I'm sure it is nice, but it is butt ugly. The interior is even worse, looking at the dash makes me want to vomit.
Besides, we didn't buy it for mileage alone. I mean my truck gets 12-15mpg and I could care less. We looked at GTIs but I was somewhat unimpressed and the I4 gasser sounded almost ricey to me.
A couple of my wife's coworked bought new Priuses (Priuii? lol) over the last six months and the both hate them and complain about them constantly. They say that they are horribly slow, uncomfortable, crappy ride, funky brakes, and aren't getting as good of mileage as they claim to. Both of them said that they were super jealous when my wife brought this to work.
Edit: I will say that Ford has been making nice cars. I like the fusion sport but you can't get it with a manual transmission because Ford has their heads up there as$es on that one. The Fiesta will probably sell okay, and I'm sure it is nice, but it is butt ugly. The interior is even worse, looking at the dash makes me want to vomit.
Thanks guys. I really like it, and my wife loves it. Being that it is her daily driver that is pretty important!
Not to argue more BS, but just for kicks, the Golf TDI four door is $4k less than a base model fusion hybrid, gets better highway economy, and the 5 year cost of ownership is estimated to be $4,400 less according to Edmunds. Standard equipment is pretty comparable on both. The Golf weighs almost 700 lbs less, turning radius is almost two feet less, overall length is 25" shorter, has more head room front and rear, more luggage capacity. Not to mention the fusion has a boring *** CVT instead of six speed manual or optional DSG auto. The Fusion is couple inches wider so it could fit three in back more comfortably, three would be crammed in the back of the Golf. The Fusion has about 1" extra leg room front and back, but in the Golf I can adjust the front seat so that I am comfortable, and still have plenty of room in back and I'm 6' tall. The warranty is mostly the same, however the Golf has a 12 year unlimited mileage rust warranty where the Fusion is only 5 years. 0-60 is basically the same, however load up the heavy hybrid next to the TDI that makes 236 Lb-Ft of torque at 1,750 RPM and I bet the TDI pulls away.
If you are the hippie type, you might also note that hybrids are using a butt load of rare earth metals, generally mined in other counties, shipped to another country for refinement, shipped to another country to make them into a battery, then shipped back here. Disposing of the battery is a big concern to the environment and they are not going to be cheap when they go bad. Might as well scrap the car 8 years down the road when the battery is done. I hardly think that the hybrid drivetrain will outlast the average VW TDI drivetrain, especially with a manual transmission.
I will say that I haven't driven the Fusion Hybrid, but I have driven the standard fusion and the fusion sport, as well as Escape Hybrids. Aside from the extra power that the Sport had, the Golf TDI beats the fusion hands down for driving experience in my opinion. It is much lighter and more nimble feeling. The front seats are also more supportive. The Fusion is a little more plush I suppose, so it just depends on what you like. I prefer a sportier ride rather than a heavy sedan feeling like the Fusion has and the Legacy GT had.
Again, none of that really matter that much to us. We just have no interest in a boring expensive hybrid. Switching to a more fuel efficient car is nice though, seeing as my wife is on pace for over 18k miles per year right now of mostly highway driving. Diesel here is the same as premium gas right now, which the Subaru required.
My wife likes the fact that the Golf is so much smaller on the outside, without having a cramped and cheap interior like so many econoboxes. It really is much more roomy than you would expect by looking at it, but very easy to park and fit in small spaces. When my wife's Prius owning co-workers rode in the car with her, they both said "I thought Golfs were supposed to be really small...?" So far it doesn't seem to sacrifice much of anything. If you read any reviews out there, everyone comments on how stable and quiet the car is up to and well over 100mph, unlike most any other cars here. It holds it's own and doesn't get blown around or plagued with wind noise like the Legacy GT did and so many other cars do. It doesn't suffer horrible understeer more most cars in North America either.
I drove a 2010 Jetta TDI and didn't like it at all on the other hand. It is on the older MKV platform still, and it rides like a boat in comparison. It felt completely different. Most people wouldn't mind it but it just wasn't sporty handling.
Not to argue more BS, but just for kicks, the Golf TDI four door is $4k less than a base model fusion hybrid, gets better highway economy, and the 5 year cost of ownership is estimated to be $4,400 less according to Edmunds. Standard equipment is pretty comparable on both. The Golf weighs almost 700 lbs less, turning radius is almost two feet less, overall length is 25" shorter, has more head room front and rear, more luggage capacity. Not to mention the fusion has a boring *** CVT instead of six speed manual or optional DSG auto. The Fusion is couple inches wider so it could fit three in back more comfortably, three would be crammed in the back of the Golf. The Fusion has about 1" extra leg room front and back, but in the Golf I can adjust the front seat so that I am comfortable, and still have plenty of room in back and I'm 6' tall. The warranty is mostly the same, however the Golf has a 12 year unlimited mileage rust warranty where the Fusion is only 5 years. 0-60 is basically the same, however load up the heavy hybrid next to the TDI that makes 236 Lb-Ft of torque at 1,750 RPM and I bet the TDI pulls away.
If you are the hippie type, you might also note that hybrids are using a butt load of rare earth metals, generally mined in other counties, shipped to another country for refinement, shipped to another country to make them into a battery, then shipped back here. Disposing of the battery is a big concern to the environment and they are not going to be cheap when they go bad. Might as well scrap the car 8 years down the road when the battery is done. I hardly think that the hybrid drivetrain will outlast the average VW TDI drivetrain, especially with a manual transmission.
I will say that I haven't driven the Fusion Hybrid, but I have driven the standard fusion and the fusion sport, as well as Escape Hybrids. Aside from the extra power that the Sport had, the Golf TDI beats the fusion hands down for driving experience in my opinion. It is much lighter and more nimble feeling. The front seats are also more supportive. The Fusion is a little more plush I suppose, so it just depends on what you like. I prefer a sportier ride rather than a heavy sedan feeling like the Fusion has and the Legacy GT had.
Again, none of that really matter that much to us. We just have no interest in a boring expensive hybrid. Switching to a more fuel efficient car is nice though, seeing as my wife is on pace for over 18k miles per year right now of mostly highway driving. Diesel here is the same as premium gas right now, which the Subaru required.
My wife likes the fact that the Golf is so much smaller on the outside, without having a cramped and cheap interior like so many econoboxes. It really is much more roomy than you would expect by looking at it, but very easy to park and fit in small spaces. When my wife's Prius owning co-workers rode in the car with her, they both said "I thought Golfs were supposed to be really small...?" So far it doesn't seem to sacrifice much of anything. If you read any reviews out there, everyone comments on how stable and quiet the car is up to and well over 100mph, unlike most any other cars here. It holds it's own and doesn't get blown around or plagued with wind noise like the Legacy GT did and so many other cars do. It doesn't suffer horrible understeer more most cars in North America either.
I drove a 2010 Jetta TDI and didn't like it at all on the other hand. It is on the older MKV platform still, and it rides like a boat in comparison. It felt completely different. Most people wouldn't mind it but it just wasn't sporty handling.
Thanks guys. I really like it, and my wife loves it. Being that it is her daily driver that is pretty important!
Not to argue more BS, but just for kicks, the Golf TDI four door is $4k less than a base model fusion hybrid, gets better highway economy, and the 5 year cost of ownership is estimated to be $4,400 less according to Edmunds. Standard equipment is pretty comparable on both. The Golf weighs almost 700 lbs less, turning radius is almost two feet less, overall length is 25" shorter, has more head room front and rear, more luggage capacity. Not to mention the fusion has a boring *** CVT instead of six speed manual or optional DSG auto. The Fusion is couple inches wider so it could fit three in back more comfortably, three would be crammed in the back of the Golf. The Fusion has about 1" extra leg room front and back, but in the Golf I can adjust the front seat so that I am comfortable, and still have plenty of room in back and I'm 6' tall. The warranty is mostly the same, however the Golf has a 12 year unlimited mileage rust warranty where the Fusion is only 5 years. 0-60 is basically the same, however load up the heavy hybrid next to the TDI that makes 236 Lb-Ft of torque at 1,750 RPM and I bet the TDI pulls away.
If you are the hippie type, you might also note that hybrids are using a butt load of rare earth metals, generally mined in other counties, shipped to another country for refinement, shipped to another country to make them into a battery, then shipped back here. Disposing of the battery is a big concern to the environment and they are not going to be cheap when they go bad. Might as well scrap the car 8 years down the road when the battery is done. I hardly think that the hybrid drivetrain will outlast the average VW TDI drivetrain, especially with a manual transmission.
I will say that I haven't driven the Fusion Hybrid, but I have driven the standard fusion and the fusion sport, as well as Escape Hybrids. Aside from the extra power that the Sport had, the Golf TDI beats the fusion hands down for driving experience in my opinion. It is much lighter and more nimble feeling. The front seats are also more supportive. The Fusion is a little more plush I suppose, so it just depends on what you like. I prefer a sportier ride rather than a heavy sedan feeling like the Fusion has and the Legacy GT had.
Again, none of that really matter that much to us. We just have no interest in a boring expensive hybrid. Switching to a more fuel efficient car is nice though, seeing as my wife is on pace for over 18k miles per year right now of mostly highway driving. Diesel here is the same as premium gas right now, which the Subaru required.
My wife likes the fact that the Golf is so much smaller on the outside, without having a cramped and cheap interior like so many econoboxes. It really is much more roomy than you would expect by looking at it, but very easy to park and fit in small spaces. When my wife's Prius owning co-workers rode in the car with her, they both said "I thought Golfs were supposed to be really small...?" So far it doesn't seem to sacrifice much of anything. If you read any reviews out there, everyone comments on how stable and quiet the car is up to and well over 100mph, unlike most any other cars here. It holds it's own and doesn't get blown around or plagued with wind noise like the Legacy GT did and so many other cars do. It doesn't suffer horrible understeer more most cars in North America either.
I drove a 2010 Jetta TDI and didn't like it at all on the other hand. It is on the older MKV platform still, and it rides like a boat in comparison. It felt completely different. Most people wouldn't mind it but it just wasn't sporty handling.
Not to argue more BS, but just for kicks, the Golf TDI four door is $4k less than a base model fusion hybrid, gets better highway economy, and the 5 year cost of ownership is estimated to be $4,400 less according to Edmunds. Standard equipment is pretty comparable on both. The Golf weighs almost 700 lbs less, turning radius is almost two feet less, overall length is 25" shorter, has more head room front and rear, more luggage capacity. Not to mention the fusion has a boring *** CVT instead of six speed manual or optional DSG auto. The Fusion is couple inches wider so it could fit three in back more comfortably, three would be crammed in the back of the Golf. The Fusion has about 1" extra leg room front and back, but in the Golf I can adjust the front seat so that I am comfortable, and still have plenty of room in back and I'm 6' tall. The warranty is mostly the same, however the Golf has a 12 year unlimited mileage rust warranty where the Fusion is only 5 years. 0-60 is basically the same, however load up the heavy hybrid next to the TDI that makes 236 Lb-Ft of torque at 1,750 RPM and I bet the TDI pulls away.
If you are the hippie type, you might also note that hybrids are using a butt load of rare earth metals, generally mined in other counties, shipped to another country for refinement, shipped to another country to make them into a battery, then shipped back here. Disposing of the battery is a big concern to the environment and they are not going to be cheap when they go bad. Might as well scrap the car 8 years down the road when the battery is done. I hardly think that the hybrid drivetrain will outlast the average VW TDI drivetrain, especially with a manual transmission.
I will say that I haven't driven the Fusion Hybrid, but I have driven the standard fusion and the fusion sport, as well as Escape Hybrids. Aside from the extra power that the Sport had, the Golf TDI beats the fusion hands down for driving experience in my opinion. It is much lighter and more nimble feeling. The front seats are also more supportive. The Fusion is a little more plush I suppose, so it just depends on what you like. I prefer a sportier ride rather than a heavy sedan feeling like the Fusion has and the Legacy GT had.
Again, none of that really matter that much to us. We just have no interest in a boring expensive hybrid. Switching to a more fuel efficient car is nice though, seeing as my wife is on pace for over 18k miles per year right now of mostly highway driving. Diesel here is the same as premium gas right now, which the Subaru required.
My wife likes the fact that the Golf is so much smaller on the outside, without having a cramped and cheap interior like so many econoboxes. It really is much more roomy than you would expect by looking at it, but very easy to park and fit in small spaces. When my wife's Prius owning co-workers rode in the car with her, they both said "I thought Golfs were supposed to be really small...?" So far it doesn't seem to sacrifice much of anything. If you read any reviews out there, everyone comments on how stable and quiet the car is up to and well over 100mph, unlike most any other cars here. It holds it's own and doesn't get blown around or plagued with wind noise like the Legacy GT did and so many other cars do. It doesn't suffer horrible understeer more most cars in North America either.
I drove a 2010 Jetta TDI and didn't like it at all on the other hand. It is on the older MKV platform still, and it rides like a boat in comparison. It felt completely different. Most people wouldn't mind it but it just wasn't sporty handling.
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Ignore the crap all over the freshly waxed car too. lol
The tint shop made a huge mess of it so I need to do a quick wash tonight to get the nasty soapy solution off. It's 92 and sunny so I'm waiting until the sun goes down to wash it again.
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I really like the Fusion too, I have driven all of the combos of the 2010. We just liked this better overall. The diesel and manual trans really got me, followed by mpg and the wife really liked the smaller exterior with the (mostly) bigger interior.
Looks good, its probably just baby shampoo thats what we use anyway lol.
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Now that it is dried up, it wipes right off with meguiars spray and wipe stuff, at least the area that's in the shade. I left it sitting in the sun, the haze is nearly all gone since this am.
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Hah, thanks.
It is quiet! Borla sells a 2.5" catback with no muffler, but even that is hardly louder than stock. Slightly louder at idle and a hint of turbo whine, otherwise the two cats and DPF eat up all the noise.
It is quiet! Borla sells a 2.5" catback with no muffler, but even that is hardly louder than stock. Slightly louder at idle and a hint of turbo whine, otherwise the two cats and DPF eat up all the noise.
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So I updated a few things on the car today. Nothing huge...
Silverstar Ultra low beams
Nokya Yellow (2500k) fog lights
Tinted Lamin-X on the side markers (not dark, it just tones down the orange)
Clear Lamin-X on the fog lights (had some for the head lights but I didn't like the fit and trimming was a PITA)
The pictures kind of suck, and don't show the contrast of the lights that well, but what can you do. My camera is on it's way out. After some drunk dropping it a while back, I can't see the lcd display to play with settings much, the flash only pops up half the time, it's not working so well. lol
I also put some red film on the 'foot-well' lights (factory), to match the red dash lights, and the red LED over-head lights (also factory). The over head lights and foot-well lights come on with the head lights, and the foot-well lights are adjustable output for accent lighting. It looks a lot better than white I think. Again the picture sucks but you get the idea.
I have a few other things ordered as well, but nothing that cool. A pro-clip iphone mount, 6' dock extender cable, and aluminum skid plate. The oil pan sits really low and it made out of aluminum. It has been described as an egg shell hanging between the front tires, so this will be cheap (relatively) insurance.
Silverstar Ultra low beams
Nokya Yellow (2500k) fog lights
Tinted Lamin-X on the side markers (not dark, it just tones down the orange)
Clear Lamin-X on the fog lights (had some for the head lights but I didn't like the fit and trimming was a PITA)
The pictures kind of suck, and don't show the contrast of the lights that well, but what can you do. My camera is on it's way out. After some drunk dropping it a while back, I can't see the lcd display to play with settings much, the flash only pops up half the time, it's not working so well. lol
I also put some red film on the 'foot-well' lights (factory), to match the red dash lights, and the red LED over-head lights (also factory). The over head lights and foot-well lights come on with the head lights, and the foot-well lights are adjustable output for accent lighting. It looks a lot better than white I think. Again the picture sucks but you get the idea.
I have a few other things ordered as well, but nothing that cool. A pro-clip iphone mount, 6' dock extender cable, and aluminum skid plate. The oil pan sits really low and it made out of aluminum. It has been described as an egg shell hanging between the front tires, so this will be cheap (relatively) insurance.
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There is already 740 miles on the car. I fueled up today at 36mpg for this tank. It has seen a lot of in-town driving and short trips for this half-tank. The first time I fueled up it was 42mpg.
