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red_rider 02-12-2009 04:49 PM

wow sounds pretty cool, what kind of rpms were you running on the high rpm video?

05prerunner 02-12-2009 06:12 PM

Did you find and swap in the Turbo computer, injectors, and MAF? I really think this would help. Maybe get a blow off valve to regulate boost? I like your idea a lot, but I think you should really get the bugs worked out... Like the cable idea, it works, but what a PITA. With some more work I'd say you can get this thing running great.

elementsenjoi 02-12-2009 07:17 PM


Originally Posted by Bryan22 (Post 1210688)
seems like it's still really slow.... why didn't you wind it up in the videos?

Because it has 200,00 miles on it with 7 pounds of boost and a stock fuel strategy.:headache:


Originally Posted by TheStig88 (Post 1210692)
you wouldnt want to sell it now would you???

Not a chance, sorry.


Originally Posted by Bryan22 (Post 1210705)
why on earth would you want to buy it? haha.

What the hell is that supposed to mean?

elementsenjoi 02-12-2009 07:26 PM


Originally Posted by red_rider (Post 1210733)
wow sounds pretty cool, what kind of rpms were you running on the high rpm video?

No idea. It doesn't have a tach yet. It isn't that high though. 4-5ish maybe i don't really remember.


Originally Posted by 05prerunner (Post 1210833)
Did you find and swap in the Turbo computer, injectors, and MAF? I really think this would help. Maybe get a blow off valve to regulate boost? I like your idea a lot, but I think you should really get the bugs worked out... Like the cable idea, it works, but what a PITA. With some more work I'd say you can get this thing running great.

Not yet, it is far from finished. We still have to intercool it, and do something about the fuel. We might start off with injectors from a Crown Vic PI. They are something like 19LB injectors. Dad just wants to put a few miles on it to figure out the little mechanical bugs, before we try to build any power with it.

The cable on the bypass is more of just for kicks. It would be like a lever in the shifter to grab when you wanted more power. It is just one of them random ideas thrown up in the air. The whole truck is like that, it is pretty much just a "why the hell not?" truck. Right now the bypass is adjusted with a bolt that holds it open.

Downey 02-12-2009 08:03 PM

isn't the bypass suppose to work off vacuum?

elementsenjoi 02-12-2009 08:23 PM

Yeah it is suppose to, but then we don't really have control over it.

Bryan22 02-12-2009 09:17 PM

If you get some biggere injectors and get it tuned better, i'm sure you'll be very suprised with how much better it does. I would not run it long with stock injectors at 7 lbs of boost. the stock injectors aren't good for more than about 2 psi. If you continue running it , it won't be long before you melt a piston... and i don't think you'll be really happy with 19# injectors either. you need something close to 35# to run up around 10psi.

elementsenjoi 02-12-2009 09:29 PM

http://members.shaw.ca/rabello/p16.htm

We are by far not basing this build off of this truck, but it is the only other S/C'd 2.3 build that I have seen. Just some food for thought.

His solution to the fuel problem:

http://members.shaw.ca/rabello/p19.htm

Bryan22 02-12-2009 09:50 PM

stock injectors on an 86 t-bird turbocoupe are 35# injectors and i think stock boost was close to 15 psi. I think ford knows better than a backyard builder.... don't mean to insult but if you want your motor to last you should think about it a little more. And that other guy has his boost topping out at 5 psi with 19# injectors, that would be pretty close. You've allready said your running 7psi on stock fuel system... i

danger ranger 02-24-2009 11:37 PM

its turd super charged or not haha shoulda done a 4.0 or bigger

elementsenjoi 02-25-2009 12:05 AM


Originally Posted by danger ranger (Post 1226858)
its turd super charged or not haha shoulda done a 4.0 or bigger

Or not. Everyone does that. How about I do something different regardless of the outcome. We wanted to supercharge a 4cyl and we did. When we get the fuel problemn all worked out then we might make a bit of power, but for now I'm happy that I can actually pass people on the highway.

danger ranger 02-25-2009 12:22 AM


Originally Posted by elementsenjoi (Post 1226900)
Or not. Everyone does that. How about I do something different regardless of the outcome. We wanted to supercharge a 4cyl and we did. When we get the fuel problemn all worked out then we might make a bit of power, but for now I'm happy that I can actually pass people on the highway.

i would be 2

Bryan22 02-25-2009 01:37 PM

have you done anything else? any updates?

Alex98 02-25-2009 05:22 PM

lol this is interesting i gotta give it to ya, a 2.3 with a lil bite to it

red_rider 02-25-2009 10:02 PM

Yeah any updates? Any more sound/video clips? :drive:

Red91Stang 02-25-2009 10:32 PM

Cool idea. Heres a little band air for your fuel problems. Ger an adjustable fuel regulator, and try a 5th injector in the intake tubing just before it enters the motor. Run it off of a rpm activated switch. When you start to run lean at X rpm, adjust the rpm switch to 500rpm lower than that just to be safe.

robert99ranger 02-25-2009 10:35 PM

What kind of muffler or no muffler?

elementsenjoi 02-25-2009 10:49 PM


Originally Posted by cghstrojan08 (Post 1228208)
What kind of muffler or no muffler?

lol 4 glasspacks, two on each side. It is really loud, we need to quieten it down a bit so we can hear the blower better. I'm thinking some sort of H pipe too to get a little better flow.

elementsenjoi 02-25-2009 10:56 PM


Originally Posted by Red91Stang (Post 1228204)
Cool idea. Heres a little band air for your fuel problems. Ger an adjustable fuel regulator, and try a 5th injector in the intake tubing just before it enters the motor. Run it off of a rpm activated switch. When you start to run lean at X rpm, adjust the rpm switch to 500rpm lower than that just to be safe.

I thought about something like that before. What would trigger the injector though? I have never seen a switch like that. I have been looking for an adjustable fuel regulator.

Keep in mind we are trying to somewhat cheap in this build. So far we have $150 in the supercharger/intercooler/tubing and $20 in a belt. Not too bad if you ask me.

Red91Stang 02-25-2009 10:58 PM


Originally Posted by elementsenjoi (Post 1228234)
I thought about something like that before. What would trigger the injector though? I have never seen a switch like that. I have been looking for an adjustable fuel regulator.

Keep in mind we are trying to somewhat cheap in this build. So far we have $150 in the supercharger/intercooler/tubing and $20 in a belt. Not too bad if you ask me.



Sorry, you can get a boost activated switch from ebay or just use an hobbs switch.

elementsenjoi 02-26-2009 11:50 AM

Thanks, I'll talk to my dad about it.

elementsenjoi 04-29-2009 10:02 PM

Update:

Blew it up....finally. lol Now I can pull it and rebuild it. I am going to order some forged pistons for it. Probably an 8.0:1 compression ratio instead of the stock 9.4:1. I might have it bored, but only if the cyl. walls are scored up. (good chance) I want to get it to run with ~15psi. I will probably keep the stock cam, and I am going to port the head. I would like to get a long-tube header and get rid of the "true dual" split header thing. I am less worried about sound now and more about performance.

I will let yall know what actually happend mechanically when I get the head pulled off. It lost compression on cyl #4 and both of #4's plugs were melted and the ceramic was busted out of it. I am assuming that it just leaned out and burnt a hole in the piston.

TheStig88 04-29-2009 10:09 PM

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

please build again!!!

elementsenjoi 04-29-2009 10:10 PM

haha, I will. I am glad it blew up, now I can build it right insted of just slapping a supercharger on it.

elementsenjoi 05-02-2009 11:41 AM

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Well, the piston was starting to melt and a chunk of the ring landing cracked/broke out. The cyl. walls look like they can be honed out, so we probably wont bore it.

pics:
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The motor was clean as hell for having 200,000+ miles on it.


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