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Which motor oil to use?

My '94 2.3L B2300 has 243K miles. I wonder I should use high mileage oil or not. Under regular oil, it burns oil a little bit, not serious but I have to pour a bottle of oil to it every 1000 miles or so. If high mileage oil is to be used, which brand is good?
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castrol gtx high mileage(sp?) works wonders, itll stop the oil burn
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i use rotella....diesel motor oil...i think its good stuff and we use it all our motors at the shop i work at where we build sprint car, busch, and all sorts of race motors
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Every mechanic I've asked has said that there is absolutely no difference in regular motor oil and high mileage oil except the price tag. I don't have a single clue when it comes to the internal workings of vehicles so I just go by what I've heard.

From experience though my '95 2.3L automatic Ranger with 210,000 miles runs like a charm and I use the cheapest 5w-30 oil I can find. I do baby it and drive for good gas mileage so that may be a factor
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You know, that's what I believe myself. The only difference is the price tag UNLESS..............................you're buying synthetic. I believe there is a difference there.

I've put over 300,000 miles on a vehicle running the cheapest Wal-Mart brand there is (blue bottle) and as long as you change your oil at recommended intervals you'll be fine. I changed mine every 3,000-5,000 on regular oil and about 10,000 on synthetic.

I know there's laboratory tests showing which is better or has better ingredients but the #1 function of oil is lubrication and the #1 reason for failure is dirtiness (and thermal breakdown). Synthetic is manmade and can go longer because it hardly breaks down (if at all), but it does get dirty.




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i would use Q highmilage, i used it in my 99 ranger 4.0 nd it had 100,000 nd it ran great for me
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I use nothing but Amsoil synthetic and change my oil once a year about 18K to 20K miles. Truck runs like a top. I use synthetic in the auto tranny, one diff and the power steering also. The ECTED locker wants non-synthetic.
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Ok, my lack of mechanical knowledge shows up again, but when or why would I need to switch to synthetic oil? Also, what are the actual differences between motor oils anyway? The manual for my '95 says to just use 5w-30 so I always have and I haven't had a problem yet engine wise.
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like the old saying...."if it aint broke dont fix it"...if u havent had problems with it then dont stop doin what u are doin
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I've been using Mobil1 Full Synthetic 5w-20 for the last 10,000 miles with no problems. I put in the Extended Performance last time thats supposed to last 15,000 miles so we'll see how well that goes.
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I have been putting valvoline motor oil in my truck ever since I have owned it, but the other day I picked up some walmart oil and I am going to try that out.
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I run full synthetic myself for the sole reason of not wanting to change my oil all the time. I ran into a vendor for Amsoil about 6 months ago at a swap meet but he did'nt have the products on him so I ended up not buying. Good product though!



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I personally would rather change my oil every 3,000-5,000 miles with regular motor oil than use synthetic and change that every 10,000-15,000 miles. One reason is because motor oil gets dirty like what you said Hardwareman and I like changing the oil in my truck.
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I personally would rather change my oil every 3,000-5,000 miles with regular motor oil than use synthetic and change that every 10,000-15,000 miles. One reason is because motor oil gets dirty like what you said Hardwareman and I like changing the oil in my truck.
Yeah, I used to not mind changing it all the time but then I started driving my Ranger (it's my work truck too!) like 200 miles a day and it was getting monotanous you know? I was changing it almost every month!

There's nothing wrong with changing it the way you do, and you're definitely ensuring clean oil by doing so. Your internal engine components will bless you FordRangerXLT!



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I personally would rather change my oil every 3,000-5,000 miles with regular motor oil than use synthetic and change that every 10,000-15,000 miles. One reason is because motor oil gets dirty like what you said Hardwareman and I like changing the oil in my truck.
Exactly right! Oil is going to get dirty at the same rate whether it's dino, or synthetic! Matter of fact, only Scamsoil recommends such long oil change intervals just to justify the highly inflated price for their products due to the MLM (pyramid) structure!! Even REAL oil companies recommend following the vehicle manufacturer's oil change interval with their synthetics!!!
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I've had my oil tested when I take it out and it's still useable.

The dirt problem is not as much as you think -- especially with a "real" filter of which there are many.

Another advantage if you're a "green" type is that you're not generating as much waste oil.

I get about 20K out of mine with not deterioration of the oil and VERY little metals in it. It works.

But if you doubt, try it once then get the oil tested. It made a believer out of me.

Running oil for 3K to 5K is thowing away money and petroleum.

But if you're afraid to make the switch, I understand -- I was once also.

As far as when to switch, you can switch any time. Today's synthetics are compatible with cracked petroleum oils so you don't have to flush or anything.

I did change my filter several times (every 6-8K) over the course, and topped off the 1/2 quart or whatever it takes when I do. Lately with the microfiber filters I run them 10K and only do one filter change between oil changes and it still works great. Even less work and extra oil.
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I've had my oil tested when I take it out and it's still useable.

The dirt problem is not as much as you think -- especially with a "real" filter of which there are many.

Another advantage if you're a "green" type is that you're not generating as much waste oil.

I get about 20K out of mine with not deterioration of the oil and VERY little metals in it. It works.

But if you doubt, try it once then get the oil tested. It made a believer out of me.

Running oil for 3K to 5K is thowing away money and petroleum.

But if you're afraid to make the switch, I understand -- I was once also.

As far as when to switch, you can switch any time. Today's synthetics are compatible with cracked petroleum oils so you don't have to flush or anything.

I did change my filter several times (every 6-8K) over the course, and topped off the 1/2 quart or whatever it takes when I do. Lately with the microfiber filters I run them 10K and only do one filter change between oil changes and it still works great. Even less work and extra oil.
Just one thing to consider, if you figure what the costs for UOA , the shipping of the oil sample, and replacing what's lost in the sample, you could change your oil with an API certified dino oil and filter!!
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Not really. Even with the oil test I come out ahead -- and I get the lower wear properties of a synthetic.

Your analysis only holds is synthetic is no better in the first place -- but it is.

This debate goes on forever. The ones who haven't tried it knock it, and the ones who've done it with no problems and documented results talk from experience. Everyone makes his own choice, but at least those of us with extended drain experience know exactly what we're talking about.

Arguing for constantly throwing away inferior oil as if somehow it's a "better idea" or "safer" just doesn't wash.

But I'll quit. I know what I'm experiencing and you don't so there's no further room for discussion lol. Try it and see.

At this point I only test my oil every other year. This is a test year. If this year shows no problems I'll probably stop testing entirely and just do 1 year changes with an oil I now know works as designed.
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Not really. Even with the oil test I come out ahead -- and I get the lower wear properties of a synthetic.

Your analysis only holds is synthetic is no better in the first place -- but it is.

This debate goes on forever. The ones who haven't tried it knock it, and the ones who've done it with no problems and documented results talk from experience. Everyone makes his own choice, but at least those of us with extended drain experience know exactly what we're talking about.

Arguing for constantly throwing away inferior oil as if somehow it's a "better idea" or "safer" just doesn't wash.

But I'll quit. I know what I'm experiencing and you don't so there's no further room for discussion lol. Try it and see.

At this point I only test my oil every other year. This is a test year. If this year shows no problems I'll probably stop testing entirely and just do 1 year changes with an oil I now know works as designed.

I'm sorry to hear you have been so brainwashed by Scamsoil! But this is a characteristic of most MLM companies! Their website is full of lies and deceit,
just look at how they try to make you believe that all their oil products are
are API certified, and only 2 are, PCO, and XL.

Scamsoil is only a blender and packager, they buy all of their base oil stock from REAL oil companies.....

Just my $0.02........
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Ive used Mobil1, but swithed to Motorcraft full syn. The fact that its free helped the switch.
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Ive used Mobil1, but swithed to Motorcraft full syn. The fact that its free helped the switch.
FREE?

Please explain, as I live close to you and if you can get it free I'll pay you for it bro! Hahaha


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lol I used to bug the lube guys at Citrus Ford to hook me up with the extra 5-30 they had. I have about 20QT in reserve, I just quit, and am now in Sunrise Ford.
I'll let you know after I get to know some of the lube guys here, I don't mind sharing.
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That's ok buddy, that's your gold mine. I sure wish it was me though. Take care.




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I've had my oil tested when I take it out and it's still useable.
This is the results I got with Mobil 1. The oil is almost like new.
http://www.freewebs.com/arizonariders/oilanalysis.htm


Can you post your UOA results so I can compare them to Mobil 1?
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Mobil 1 here. The factory recommends, "Every 5,000 miles or six months whichever comes first." This week was my 6 month change date and only had about 2,000- 2,500 miles on it but I changed it anyway, because over time, oil can collect a lot of dirt and condensation, so I change it. The truck runs like new and sounds great, even though it has 35,500 miles on it.
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