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Old Jun 19, 2010
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getting it started. ATTN sas guys

blew my gears in my front diff yesterday, so i thought its the perfect time to start the sas. i havent planned it all out yet but im looking for suggestions and thoughts. im thinkin a d44 or ford 9"?. i want to run coilovers as well. my buddy owns a race shop so hopefully i will be doing the work there. this is my first experience with doing a sas so any tips are appreciated
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blew my gears in my front diff yesterday, so i thought its the perfect time to start the sas. i havent planned it all out yet but im looking for suggestions and thoughts. im thinkin a d44 or ford 9"?. i want to run coilovers as well. my buddy owns a race shop so hopefully i will be doing the work there. this is my first experience with doing a sas so any tips are appreciated
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A D44 or 9 inch? Seriously? If you want coilovers go for it. My suggestion before you get started is: research research research research research research research research research research research research research research research research research research research research research research research research research research research research research research research research research research research!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Honestly thats the best suggestion you're going to get. I did research for like 3 years before I ever bought a single part!
 
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i am. and i dont have 3 years its gotta happen now
 
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ford 9" front eh?
 
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i am. and i dont have 3 years its gotta happen now
What I'm trying to say is, make sure you know exactly what you're getting into before you reach the point of no return. When you ask for an opinion on whether you should use a 9" OR a D44 for your SAS, its going to make people question your ability to pull it off right from the get go.
 
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yeah 9" is the rear. If I needed a get it rolling quickly I would find a jeep d30. Should be pretty easy and cheap to get ahold of.
 
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ok thanks for clarifying. and ive heard d30's arent that strong. but your right, there everywhere lol
 
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they are not that strong but u can make em strong search super 30 kit.....comes with chromoly axles n what not...
 
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ok ill check it out. and im lookin for help, suggestions and anything else u guys can throw at me. and the point of no return is already here. im not driving my truck with shredded gears in the front axle, so its time for the sas
 
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well idealy if you can find one the best thing you could do it like rstangboi and get a wagoneer d44. But those will be a little more difficult to find
 
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ok ill check it out. and im lookin for help, suggestions and anything else u guys can throw at me. and the point of no return is already here. im not driving my truck with shredded gears in the front axle, so its time for the sas
Not quite. You could easily find a replacement front diff at a junkyard.
 
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Not quite. You could easily find a replacement front diff at a junkyard.
im not even going to waste my time with that. ive wanted to do a sas for a while now and its the perfet time. Chainfire, thanks for the links. briefly read over all of them, will read more later, and it seems like the easiest setup will be leaf springs. the only problem i will have during this build is welding. i need to get a welder or ive got to pay someone to weld parts for me. im looking at d30's right now, found one for 150
 

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still reading up and getting some more info. i have a couple questions. can i keep my stock rear axle? and is the dana 44 front the same lug pattern? also where did you guys get your schock loops, leaf hangers and shackles, and what kind of leafs? also leanin towards a coil suspension. it looks to be about the same difficulty to do, i just cant find any hoops for the setup...
 

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i have a couple questions. can i keep my stock rear axle?
Yes, as long as the gears match the front.

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and is the dana 44 front the same lug pattern?
Nope, and there are alot of different patterns depending on which D44 you go with.

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also where did you guys get your schock loops, leaf hangers and shackles, and what kind of leafs?
Hoops are going to be a custom deal for coils. If you go coilovers you can use the trail gear hoops. You'll also be able to use the trail gear hoops for a shock tower on a leaf setup. If you run a coil setup like mine though you're probably going to need custom hoops.
 
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Originally Posted by RazorsEDGE
Yes, as long as the gears match the front.



Nope, and there are alot of different patterns depending on which D44 you go with.



Hoops are going to be a custom deal for coils. If you go coilovers you can use the trail gear hoops. You'll also be able to use the trail gear hoops for a shock tower on a leaf setup. If you run a coil setup like mine though you're probably going to need custom hoops.
thanks for the responses
do you know what d44 im looking for so the lug pattern matches my rear?
and with coilovers, all you run is the coilover shock right? and did you make your loops?
and is a 3 or 4 link required with all types of suspension? or if i go leaf, do i not need them
 

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Originally Posted by rangerluc
thanks for the responses
do you know what d44 im looking for so the lug pattern matches my rear?
and with coilovers, all you run is the coilover shock right? and did you make your loops?
and is a 3 or 4 link required with all types of suspension? or if i go leaf, do i not need them
No D44 will match your rear lug pattern. If you pick coilovers then yes thats all you'll need as far as shocks. I didn't make my hoops, they were done by Zabeard. Links are not required for all types of suspension. Leafs don't need links.

I must ask one more time.......are you sure you're ready for a SAS? lol.
 
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Originally Posted by RazorsEDGE
No D44 will match your rear lug pattern. If you pick coilovers then yes thats all you'll need as far as shocks. I didn't make my hoops, they were done by Zabeard. Links are not required for all types of suspension. Leafs don't need links.

I must ask one more time.......are you sure you're ready for a SAS? lol.
ok all great info. and yeah, ive wanted to do it for a while, i have a great mechanical background and i can figure a lot of stuff out. i will obviously be asking a lot of questions, and im hoping for good answers.
one more question, do you need to run links with coilovers?
 
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Yes. I'd go for a 3 link with coilovers.
 
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Originally Posted by RazorsEDGE
Yes. I'd go for a 3 link with coilovers.
damn, looks like im going to be running leafs then. i dont really want to spend 1500 on a 3 link kit
and i saw you run a d30, is that the same lug pattern as my 8.8?
 

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damn, looks like im going to be running leafs then. i dont really want to spend 1500 on a 3 link kit
and i saw you run a d30, is that the same lug pattern as my 8.8?
Yes..
 
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Yes..
ok now im getting somewhere. so tell me what you guys think. ill run a d30 up front with my 8.8 in the rear. if i can have a shop do the 3 link setup for cheaper than a grand ill do it. if not, ill run leaf springs and im thinking 5" leafs to clear 35's??
and ill run these in a 14"
http://www.trail-gear.com/shock-hoops
and pick up some 14" fox coilovers if i go that route.
if i go leaf spring route, ill get these in the 5", correct?
http://www.trail-gear.com/leaf-springs
also, can you run coilovers without a 3 or 4 link setup?
 

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damn, looks like im going to be running leafs then. i dont really want to spend 1500 on a 3 link kit
and i saw you run a d30, is that the same lug pattern as my 8.8?
1500?

you can link a front axle for much less than that.
 
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1500?

you can link a front axle for much less than that.
any ideas how? because if i can do it for under 500, im going to be running coilovers
 
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cant do it for under 500 -- coilovers alone are more then 500..then you got DOM and joints, jam nuts, tube adapters, brackets..panhard bar..those joints..
 
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