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OK, so I finally got off my *** and measured my suspension. I have my truck leveled with a TB crank, nothing more, and at ride height, I measure just about 15" between where the eyelets will be on the shocks once the coilover brackets are installed. Based on this, I believe the 6.5" travel should work on mine. I'm confused that this shock is supposed to work on a superlifted truck, because that would be a couple of inches taller than mine currently sits. With a collapsed length of 12.85", and extended length of 19.35", this puts my ride height approximately in the middle. While the 5" travel gives a better compression clearance, the extended length is too close to the ride height IMO. Seems like I would have to set limit straps just barely taller than ride height. Opinions?
While I haven't measured the collapsed and extended lengths on my actual truck, I would bet the travel at the shock mounting points are pretty pathetic on our stock trucks anyway. Of course, the travel will be more out at the wheel…but inboard at the shock mounting, my guess is that it may only be about 3-4" total travel. I would think the CV's are the limiting factor.

For what's it worth, my 5" travel Fox's with the extended bottom eyelet is about 18" from eyelet to eyelet.

The main reason I'm going to try the 5" version is because I was told first hand in a PM from a member here that the 6.5" versions worked perfectly on his superlifted truck & that was good enough for me! Since the stock trucks don't have the lowered control arm brackets/cross members that the superlift kit uses, I'm betting the 5" is perfect for a stock truck.

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Alright. That helps a bit. The specs must not be measured at the eyelets, because the 5" travel lists 16.4" extended length. I was trying to find somewhere in the specs that said or showed where the measurements were taken from.
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Alright. That helps a bit. The specs must not be measured at the eyelets, because the 5" travel lists 16.4" extended length. I was trying to find somewhere in the specs that said or showed where the measurements were taken from.
Well remember, I have the extended lower eyelets...so they are longer than the standard ones listed. I had them shipped with these installed to help clear the CV's a little better. You can see the difference between my extended versions (installed) and the stock ones (shown loose) here in this picture:


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Well remember, I have the extended lower eyelets...so they are longer than the standard ones listed. I had them shipped with these installed to help clear the CV's a little better. You can see the difference between my extended versions (installed) and the stock ones (shown loose) here in this picture:

Does fox makes those extended eyelits? i just ordered the fox coilovers 980-99-001A and the bottom spring pearch (as well as the spring) kisses the cv boot. Do you have a part number for the extended eyelits? Thanks for any help guys my truck is just sitting with broken bilsteins....
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Does fox makes those extended eyelits? i just ordered the fox coilovers 980-99-001A and the bottom spring pearch (as well as the spring) kisses the cv boot. Do you have a part number for the extended eyelits? Thanks for any help guys my truck is just sitting with broken bilsteins....
Yep, Fox makes them..they are officially called "Long Rod Ends" and are part #213-01-138-A (Series 2.0 w/ 5/8" Shaft). They were like $50-$60 for the pair.
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Yep, Fox makes them..they are officially called "Long Rod Ends" and are part #213-01-138-A (Series 2.0 w/ 5/8" Shaft). They were like $50-$60 for the pair.
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What length springs are on those? Are they 14's or 12's? Also, are those 200 lb springs?
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12" long, 2.5" ID with 750lb springs.
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12" long, 2.5" ID with 750lb springs.
Yep...what TrePaul said.

I also bought some 10" versions, I hope to use the 12" ones that are on it though, as it will give me more adjustability.


Here are some of the part numbers for the items shown above...remember I still haven't installed these items, so I can't verify everything will work!

Fox 2.0 Pro Series 5" Travel
Coilover Emulsion "Black Ends"
Upgraded Chrome Body
Fox 980-04-000-A

Fox 2.0" Pro series
Long Rod Ends for 5/8" shaft
Fox 213-01-138-A

Eibach 2.5" ID Springs
12" length x 750 lb. rate
Silver
Eibach 12002500750S

Eibach 2.5" ID Springs
10" length x 750 lb. rate
Silver
Eibach 10002500750S

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for a 5" coilover could you use a 14" spring? or the tallest you can get on a 5 is a 12"
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for a 5" coilover could you use a 14" spring? or the tallest you can get on a 5 is a 12"
Not sure why you would want to try to get the 14" on there. If you look at the picture, that's at near the lowest setting, and the 12" reaches. Unless you plan on running them set all the way down, you're only going to hurt your range of motion by cramming the longer spring in there.
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for a 5" coilover could you use a 14" spring?
No, I would say the 12" is going to be the tallest you can get on there. My dealer said his recommended spring length for the 5" travel was 12" so I went with that. Afterwards I was actually a little concerned about it potentially hitting against the upper control arm since the spring will sit further up the body of the coil-over...so that's why I bought the 10" versions "just in case". But like I mentioned earlier, I'm planning on using the 12" since it will give me most adjustability.
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i would imagine that you wont have problems with your control arms, even with a 12" spring, there is a moderator on here KMC? or something like that, as far as i know he has them or had them installed on his truck and said that his fit no problem. but i have no clue as of what height spring or if he had the superlift installed. haha i dont know i could ramble and ramble.
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Not sure why you would want to try to get the 14" on there. If you look at the picture, that's at near the lowest setting, and the 12" reaches. Unless you plan on running them set all the way down, you're only going to hurt your range of motion by cramming the longer spring in there.
very good point. i keep thinking of a 6.0 and now that i look that would shorten how much i can adjust them. good call man
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...there is a moderator on here KMC? or something like that, as far as i know he has them or had them installed on his truck and said that his fit no problem.
Yeah I'm pretty sure he had a superlift with the longer coil-over setup (and the same 12" springs). So my version will come up higher on the body then his did.

But with that said...

I'm playing the odds that the 12" will work too, but just in case...I picked up the 10" versions as well so I dont get stopped cold if it doesn't work.

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really interested in doing this conversion on my 03 but was wondering if there was a way i could go cheaper on the coilovers if there was a vehicle that came factory with coilovers that i could possible get out of a junkyard or just a cheaper way to go then spending 600 or more for fox shocks

might have been a dumb question
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James Duff is working on a SAS kit TTB Rangers/BIIs/Expos as we speak. Maybe after they get done with that we can convince them to make coil-over brackets. There is defiantly a market for them.
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my03ranger, the problem with that theory is that youd have to get the stock shock tower off of say a third gen explorer. im sure you can use a cutting torch to do so but i wouldnt take my chances with cutting and rewelding a major suspension componet to hold up a 3000+ lb vehicle and also risking completely changing your suspension geometry. another problem with the "new" coilovers on 3rd gen explorers is there is almost no adjustments you can make. you can get rancho quiklifts which i dont think they have even released those yet and spacers between the shock tower and the coilover itself but it wont be higher than if you lifted it with your torsion bars. so in theory it wont really do much for you if you used that kind of setup. but in conclusion, if you find a kit or mounts with the coilovers we are talking about that you can get your hands on jump on it. cause you wont get very many opportunities to get your hands on those cherished mounts. but great idea man ive never thought of that.

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ahhhh ha! I believe digging in the depths of the forums i found this from mr. KRC - "You don't have a Superlift, do you? If not, I think Nick from ORW is recommending a 5.0" travel coil-over." Maybe something to double check with fox of course but seems like that would be the way to go. I found out that my collapsed length is 11" 18.72" extended coming from an oem replacement shock company. but then again im a sport trac but mr. Logan, sounds to me like your correct!
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Well, I finally got the quotes on the parts.

I can have these made through one of the suppliers I deal with.

Here's the info:

1/4" steel, laser cut, black powder coat finish (blasted and phosphate treated for optimum adhesion)

$125/set plus shipping (probably around $15-20 for continental US)

This is for all four brackets, no hardware. If people would rather have hardware some with it, I can figure that out and put a "kit" price out there.

I'll post this in the other thread as well. -kd like to get an idea of how many are interested in these.
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