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ridin434 11-10-2010 08:35 PM

Do you have any idea what the compatibility issues are

KLC 11-10-2010 08:36 PM


Originally Posted by ridin434 (Post 1762933)
Has anyone recently bought these? Just curious if they are still available? The custom coils I mean.

Does the lower shock mount need a spacer?
Why wouldnt it

You can still buy the coil-over's.

Both the upper and lower mounts need spacers. So you need a total of 8.

The spacers that go between the upper mount and shock bucket aren't related. You only need two of those and they are different.

KLC 11-10-2010 08:40 PM


Originally Posted by ridin434 (Post 1762938)
Do you have any idea what the compatibility issues are

Had to do with the steering stop on 2wd's. The brackets were originally designed for 4x4's with a Superlift to make it like the more expensive and discontinued RCD suspension lift.

ridin434 11-10-2010 08:47 PM

Ok got it. This is all making sense now, sorry for so many obvious questions just trying to get the system figured so I can get it built

KLC 11-10-2010 08:50 PM

They aren't obvious if you have never done a coil-over conversion before. The information is on this forum though. It's just buried in pages and pages of reading.

Bird76Mojo 11-10-2010 08:54 PM

All we need is a person to trace a set of brackets onto some posterboard. Then scan those drawings to post online. A few detailed measurements of certain surfaces of the parts would tell you what scale to print them at. The end user could then print them out out whatever scale was correct as indicated by the measurements. You'd then have exact templates to trace onto metal and cut out.

I might PM a member here and see if he'll let me "rent" his spare brackets..


GB :).

KLC 11-10-2010 08:56 PM


Originally Posted by Bird76Mojo (Post 1762960)
All we need is a person to trace a set of brackets onto some posterboard. Then scan those drawings to post online. A few detailed measurements of certain surfaces of the parts would tell you what scale to print them at. The end user could then print them out out whatever scale was correct as indicated by the measurements. You'd then have exact templates to trace onto metal and cut out.

I might PM a member here and see if he'll let me "rent" his spare brackets..


GB :).

I'm doing just that for you guys. I'll have them done later this week.

ridin434 11-10-2010 08:58 PM

Well if you get the brackets to measure I will draw it in pro e and have a 3d model and the blueprint to be able to manufacture

ridin434 11-10-2010 08:59 PM

Ok thanks missed your post

Bird76Mojo 11-10-2010 09:00 PM


Originally Posted by KLC (Post 1762962)
I'm doing just that for you guys. I'll have them done later this week.

OH SNAPS! Thanks KLC. I wasn't aware you were taking it to that level. I think that method would be the easiest for people making their own brackets. Instead of trying to draw out certain measurements on metal and guessing angles, etc.. Just adjust the scale, then print and measure the TRACINGS. If they're not right then just re-scale and print again until they're right.

Excellent man...


GB :)

KLC 11-10-2010 09:04 PM

When I get them done all you will have to do is print out the drawings and trace it on the material. They will be to scale and will include measurements and angles.

ridin434 11-10-2010 09:24 PM

Thanks klc that will be great.

If while your drawing these to scale you could add all dimensions that would be greatly appreciated.

PAShooter 11-10-2010 09:29 PM

Could after we get all this figured out maybe sticky the dimensions and the info. I think thatd be helpful and people wouldnt have to search through tons of threads

ridin434 11-10-2010 09:48 PM

I agree that wAs my idea for this thread. We should get a detail drawing for the brackets, spacer design, coil over specs, and hardwRe.

I hope we can get this all in one threAd

logan03CO 11-11-2010 05:38 AM


Originally Posted by KLC (Post 1762925)
There are also two machined aluminum spacers that are used for the top coil-over mounts. The stock shock buckets aren't flat at the top. These spacers give you a flat mounting surface as they go between the mount and the bracket.

Exactly...the aluminum spacers I listed the RCD part numbers for in my previous post were referring to these that go on the top...not the "side-to-side" ones.

Bird76Mojo 11-11-2010 05:48 AM


Originally Posted by logan03CO (Post 1763051)
Exactly...the aluminum spacers I listed the RCD part numbers for in my previous post were referring to these that go on the top...not the "side-to-side" ones.


In case it will help...you can still order the gussets and the aluminum upper shock mount spacers directly from RCD...I just ordered and received them last week.

Gussets 20-52498-17 = Qty of 4
Spacers 20-833167 = Qty of 2

Total with shipping was like a whole $32.00


For that price..it wasn't worth trying to cut my own!

Thought I'd put all of that in one quote to make things easier to find for everyone..


GB :)

ridin434 11-11-2010 07:30 AM

11 Attachment(s)
These are some pics I have found that seem to show important details. If someone doesn't want their pictures, let me know and I will take them down.

These are the pieces to the kit that was offered by ORW
Attachment 96199

Brackets used in ORW kit
Attachment 96200
Attachment 96201
Attachment 96202

Limiting straps to prevent over extending coil overs
Attachment 96203
Attachment 96204

Cutting of the bump stops
Attachment 96205
Attachment 96206

Upper coil-over mount
Attachment 96207

Steering stop that seems needed on some trucks
Attachment 96208

How the coil should be placed
Attachment 96209


I will add more to these sections as I find them.

ridin434 11-11-2010 07:32 AM

In the pics I have seen,most dont have a front sway bar. What is the reason for removing this? I still have mine, just thought it would handle poorly on the road without it.

ridin434 11-11-2010 07:35 AM

1 Attachment(s)
To KLC:

What is the reason for adding this? Has there been strength issues?
Attachment 96197

01RangerEdge 11-11-2010 07:38 AM

KLC, can this information be organized into a sticky?

VH5150 11-11-2010 08:01 AM

KLC had a Superlift in his--those are support rods to help stiffen up the drop-down brackets for the lower control arms. IIRC, they are similar to the ones that Dixon Bros had. I miss seeing that truck on here badly-it's super bad-@ss.
MikeR

VH5150 11-11-2010 08:03 AM

Glad to see that there is interest in these brackets again--I tried to order a kit from OWR like a week after they sold their last one. MISSED IT BY THAT MUCH!
MikeR

PAShooter 11-11-2010 09:31 AM

Are there any cheaper alternatives to fox coil overs? Id like to do this but I dont think I can afford fox shocks. Maybe some without a reservoir?

ridin434 11-11-2010 09:55 AM

I am wondering about this also, it's not that I don't want fox, but it would be nice to see what else is in spec for our set ups. From what I have heard the Fox shocks were custom built, but I would imagine there are shocks out there that fit our specs.

KLC 11-11-2010 10:01 AM


Originally Posted by ridin434 (Post 1763072)
To KLC:

What is the reason for adding this? Has there been strength issues?
http://i1003.photobucket.com/albums/...susp/004-2.jpg


Originally Posted by VH5150 (Post 1763078)
KLC had a Superlift in his--those are support rods to help stiffen up the drop-down brackets for the lower control arms. IIRC, they are similar to the ones that Dixon Bros had. I miss seeing that truck on here badly-it's super bad-@ss.
MikeR

Yeah, those were used with a Superlift. Most don't use them, but they add bracing to the crossmembers.


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