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Coil VS. Torsion Bar

Ok so I got to thinking the other night, here is what I came up with.

I was replacing the upper control arms on my truck the other day and the parts store gave me the wrong ones(I have coils).

They looked identical to my coil control arms. Except for the ball joint was a little bigger then mine.

They mounted to the fram and everything perfectly. so my thought is if I were to get torsion bar (edge) 2WD spindles I would be able to get the torsion bar control arms since the lower ball joints are the same.

basically I'm wondering if the torsion spindles are bigger stock than the coil spindles?

and would I be able to buy lifted torsion spindles and swap control arms for lift on my coil suspension?

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if you want to buy aftermarket lift spindles they have them for your truck anyways...
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But if the torsion spindles are say two inches bigger stock and I was to buy 3 inch lifted torsion spindles then I would get 5 inches just out of spindles.
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first no it doesnt work.. the arm mounts are stagard different its been tried before...
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the lower balljoints are NOT the same on coil sprung trucks then torsion bar trucks, whoever told you that does not know what there talking about.

everything is different. the coil spring trucks you change just the upper balljoint not the entire arm, there pressed in just like the lowers. and they only go in one way as they are "eliptical"
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Actually the coil spring trucks you have to change the entire arm too. I can show you pics of my old arms. I just replaced the. and you can call murrays or napa or autozone and fine out the lower ball joints are the same. they are even the same on the explorer.

I dont wanna sound like an a**hole but I do research before I post about anything on here. so I know that the ball joints are the same.
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dude its been tried before just ask a member made "D" he had everything from a 2wd and he had t-bar and wanted to swap its way more then your thinking.. just buy some lift spindles
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alright heres the low down


some 4x2 rangers came with upper arms that can press out the balljoint, some didn't, also you can get an aftermarket arm that allows a removable balljoint.


Second, the Edge's have a larger upper balljoint, meaning the spindles have a largerr balljoint hole...

The edge spindle and xlt spindle are about the same length, its the t-bars vs coils that give more height, not the spindles themselves



Ok, so thats alittle background info


Now, You can run aftermarket edge spindles if you swap to edge upper controls (which you said you already had) However you really need 2 passenger side ones (the non adjustable ones). And then you use those with the edge lifting spindle and your set


You will also need new camber bushings because it will change your alignment. If you get the adjustable ones from Napa and install them, the alignment shop can align the truck with no extra charges (besides the alignment fee)


now, before anyone calls me a lier or doubts me, heres my proof:
http://www.therangerstation.com/foru...=edge+spindles

and the guys cardomain
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/800208/1


now the only down side i see to this is, you are now limiting yourself to ONLY a 3.5 spindle lift and nothing more suspension wise, unless you get custom control arms made($$$$).... The reason i say this is because the fabtech 2.5 coil lift that you can add to make it a 5.5-6inch suspension lift requires an aftermarket upper control arm that will NOT work with edge spindles


Anymore questions? Hell, buy the parts, drive to columbus, and i'll install it for you
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dude its been tried before just ask a member made "D" he had everything from a 2wd and he had t-bar and wanted to swap its way more then your thinking.. just buy some lift spindles

D wanted to replace his stock Upper & Lower Control arms for coil sprung rnger ones, the tops fit, but the bottoms didnt. He also would have had to add a coil bucket on the frame for the coils, but there isnt the room for them since the front frame clip is different


but the upper arms lined up


i know this because I provided all the parts except the spindles
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Thank you for clarifying that. I knew what I was trying to do, you just clarified that it can be done Thank you. I will take pics when and if I do it. I am hopefully going to get my spindles this week. but I will not do it until I get new rotors, lower ball joints, tie rod ends, sway bar end links and wheel bearings. I figure since I will have it all apart I might as well replace everything at once. Thank you again
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I've done alot of work on ranger IFS before I will post pics of my other truck later when I get home from work. so I kinda know what I'm talking about. I just wanted to clarify my thoughts. so I will be able to install it all my self
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aaron if you want them come get them , they got your name all over them
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