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Old Apr 17, 2005
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Cant wait to see the 35's.
 
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Old Apr 17, 2005
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Old Apr 17, 2005
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Wow, I bet the lawn looked good when you guys were done...

If all goes well, I'll have pics sometime tomorrow.

I'm taking a vacation day Friday to go play in Wharton and Tom is my "spotter", lol.
 
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Old Apr 17, 2005
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And Gary...what can I say? That "pine baron" joke was worthy (read: down to the level of) my own humor!
lol. i know. but really, what is a pine barren? never heard of it/them.
 
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The pine barrens is an anomalous area in South Jersey where almost no deciduous trees grow. The water table is close to the surface and acidic, but very pure. Far from being barren, it hosts a number os species but is lousy for agriculture except for cranberries and blueberries (which thrive in the wet and the acid).

Large underground iron ore deposits that are too scattered to be useful are etched away by the water and carried to where they form iron rich clays at the banks of waterways (of which there are many) -- the so called "bog iron". Bog iron was a HUGE economic force in the US prior to about 1860 and the iron from that area was the main domestic iron resource prior to the development of the Pennsylvania iron and steel industries, which were fueled by coal.

Coal was not used in the barrens -- instead they made charcoal from the pines. The result was that by the time the iron furnaces shut down in the mid 1800's the land was largely denuded of trees. They have all grown back.

One weird area of the barrens I want to get back to is the "plains". It's an area where otherwise normal pine species do not grow over about 4 to 5 feet tall -- so-called "dwarf pines". To this day no one knows for sure why they grow like they do. Take the seeds from those pines and plant them elsewhere and they grow into normal trees. Numerous theories have been advanced, none proven.

There are lots of old ruins hidden away in the trees, sandy roads which have been in use for about 400 years, "vanished" towns, industrial buildings, canals, hidden monuments -- all kinds of stuff. You never know what might be out there including illegal stills and what not.

The high water table occasionally makes offroading difficult, and the 110,000+ acres of wilderness make for lots of trails and roads to explore.

That is a VERY brief history. If you google "NJ pine barrens" you'll get lots more stuff on it.
 
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Old Apr 17, 2005
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daang. see if i ask you anything else. lol
 
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daang. see if i ask you anything else. lol

Ask him where do babies come from... DO it Do it!!
 
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Ah, silly -- the stork brings them...everybody knows that.
 
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Shouldn't you be asleep old man?
 
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Ah, go suck a camel (the cigarette, that is -- what do you think I would say something like THAT?...)
 
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Ah, go suck a camel (the cigarette, that is -- what do you think I would say something like THAT?...)

Hey, i was thinking cigarette's untill you said that!!!?!??!

 
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Old Apr 18, 2005
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Well, he's in Iraq -- so I thought I oughta' clarify it...
 
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Well, he's in Iraq -- so I thought I oughta' clarify it...

Heh...yeah, if you don't know where I am, you might REALLY think John is out there!
 
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Muah ha ha ha..
 
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Old Apr 18, 2005
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Wow -- that thing would have an AWESOME breakover angle with that short wheelbase...

Nice job, Colin!

I just got the 35's on it -- pictures and story a little later.
 
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Just think of the turning radius!

Go ahead and post a side profile of the truck w/ 35s.. I've got photoshop warmed up..
 
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Originally Posted by NHBubba
Just think of the turning radius!

Go ahead and post a side profile of the truck w/ 35s.. I've got photoshop warmed up..
https://www.ranger-forums.com/forum2...ead.php?t=5998
 
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Old Apr 18, 2005
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How much turning raduis did you loose, mine seems like it was about half a turn in the wheel on either side, which really sucked when I went to get lunch today, cause the drive though lane had a tight turn in it. Oh well, guess that means I will have to park in the back part of the parking lots now, and I can use the extra walking.
 
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Did you grind down the lower A-arm? You have to "notch" the lip of it about 3/4" and about 1/4" deep where the spindle contacts it on the back (trailing) edge. I do seem to have lost SOME -- but not as much as before I ground it!
 
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Old Apr 18, 2005
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I ground it down like Brian did his in this pic here. Think it should go some more?

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...0_190_full.jpg
 
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That was for a different type of spindle. From what I can see, it's NOT where I ground. The arm is almost straight where I ground some off.

Do this. Turn the truck to full lock. Get out and go to the wheel that would be on the INSIDE of the turn. It will "rebound" some so it won't be touching the lower arm, but where the back edge of the spindle is near the arm, THAT'S where you grind so the spindle can "tuck in" just a little there. Makes a HUGE difference.

I'll get a pic of where I ground by daylight.
 
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Old Apr 19, 2005
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That would be great, cause this lack of turn raduis is driving me nuts. I went to lunch today and parked, was empty when I got there, but packed when I left. There was no way to get out, so I had to jump the median. LOL
 
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Old Apr 20, 2005
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Wow. Okay, I should have taken them yesterday when I was checking clearance. I'll take them today.
 
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Old Apr 20, 2005
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Okay, here's the drivers side, passengers side's the mirror image. This is the back of the lower arm. I did it at night, can you tell?

You need an area ground like this to get most of the swing back. Notice the little "bump stop" for the original steering above and to the right of the ground area. You see a little shiny spot on it. That's where it is hitting the brake caliper. I'm grinding that stop off since it's no longer used so my brakes don't keep getting hit at full turning radius. Without that, the brakes should just clear the upper arm with no difficulty.

Nothing is easy, lol!
 
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