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Doetsch spindles installed! {pics)

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Old Apr 20, 2005
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Sweet, I will bust out the grinder tonight. So I should just cut off the orignal stop as well, and everything will be good to go right.
 
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Old Apr 20, 2005
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I believe so. I'm cutting off my stop in about 1/2 hour.
 
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Old Apr 20, 2005
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Well, I reground the rim some, and ground that button down on each side and got about another 1/4 turn each way and the brakes no longer hit the upper arm at full lock. I may grind the sharp edge of the spindle slightly so it doesn't continue to cut into the arm.
 
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Old Apr 20, 2005
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so if you had not ground this down what exactly would have been rubbing? im thinking about getting these but im terrified of grinding on my suspention and/or wheels and possibly compromising it in some way
 
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Old Apr 21, 2005
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You will suffer a terrible loss of turning radius if you don't grind the edge of the arm, and you will be rubbing the back of you brake caliper on that "button" I ground down at full lock and with suspension cycling rubbing it along it. I don't think that's a good idea, lol.

There's no grinding on your wheels, though. Just the arm.

TANSTAAFL: spindles seem like a trouble free bolt-on -- but like many major modifications they require "adjustment".

(TANSTAAFL="There Ain't No Such Think As A Free Lunch")
 
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Old Apr 23, 2005
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Ohhh it is so much better now that I can turn, thanks alot John!!!!
 
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Old Apr 23, 2005
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You're welcome!

Hey, watch out if you didn't grind enough off the little button. When I do a full lock turn to the left, and then straighten out and hit the brakes, I have no brakes! I have to pump them once to reset the piston in the caliper that was squeezed in by the turn. I have a little bit more to grind off the button on the drivers side!!!

Do some full lock turns in an empty parking lot and test to make sure that button isn't hitting. If you were patient enough to remove the whole thing, you're probably not having a problem.
 
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Old Apr 23, 2005
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Air cut off tool made simple work of that button. It was alot quicker than what it took to cut the Duff brackets to make those work. My only fear is that if I hit a bump hard, it might bend the arm. If that happens, I am going to take it to a local guy who builds control arms for lowered and air ride guys, and have him build me one that works with this spindle better.
 
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Old Apr 23, 2005
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Man I thrashed the living crap out of my truck in the "whoops" in Wharton. I was bouncing a foot in the air on the mounds but then coming down farther than that in the troughs. I wouldn't worry too much about those arms being any weaker.

I knew I was jouncing pretty good, but Tom's brother Chris was in front of me watching me take them at a greater-than-sensible speed (I was testing the truck, you know) and told me it looked pretty good especially since with the new height the skid plate never even contacted the mounds.
 
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Old Apr 23, 2005
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now, you better be careful mr griggs... we don't want to read about you rolling that truck..
 
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Old Apr 23, 2005
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Wow, I'd hate to read about me rolling it either.

Hard to do in Wharton, though -- it's so flat.

Now St. Clair would be another matter...
 
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Old Apr 23, 2005
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Truck is looking good John.. You gotta stop these secret meets!!! I need to hit the trails now that I have time.. We will have to get a small trip to wharton and test all our trucks out!! (Or least invite me to a secret AREA 51 testing session!)
 
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Old Apr 23, 2005
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If that didnt break it then nothing will.
 
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Old Apr 24, 2005
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Truck is looking good John.. You gotta stop these secret meets!!! I need to hit the trails now that I have time.. We will have to get a small trip to wharton and test all our trucks out!! (Or least invite me to a secret AREA 51 testing session!)
Sorry, Doc! I did talk about it on here in some Wharton posts! I'll call you no the phone next time since you don't get on here as much as some of us.

Are you working days or evenings? A night trip sometime would not be out of the question either.
 
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Old Apr 24, 2005
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looks awesome john!!! and i thought that you would never lift your truck :P
 
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Old Apr 24, 2005
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John,

You are having the same problems I had with my brakes...did you ever completely grind the stop off?? If so, did that help? I never completely lost the brakes, but the pedal goes hard and pulls to the left. Did you grind those 2 pointy things off the spindle also?? And does grinding the complete stop off hurt anything else?

Sorry for all the questions, but I just wanna know!
 
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Old Apr 24, 2005
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I took off about 3/4 of my stop, and am not having any problems with the brakes.
 
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Old Apr 24, 2005
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Thanks, Jacob! And thanks Jon for the details.

Daniel, yes, they will go hard on turns, but then be soft AFTER the turn. Grinding the stop off is necessary as it is no longer a "stop" that the spindle come agains, but is instead a detriment to braking. It now hurts nothing to grind it off.

And no, I did not yet grind it off as much as I should on the one side. The other side I ground more and I'm not having a problem turning in that direction. After I grind the drivers side a bit more, left turns should cease to be a prooblem.
 
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Old Apr 24, 2005
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I work 2200 to 0800. I work 4 on 4 off and then once and a while I do a 5 on 3 off.

A night trip would be cool... an over night ride/camp would be cooler!!
As for calling me.. That would be better.. I do not get on but maybe once every couple days so I miss alot sometimes.
 
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Old Nov 3, 2015
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Old thread but wanted to ask a question.

When one grinds off the steering stops because they are not needed with the newer spindle lift... what is there to actually stop the steering? IE: There were stops for the stock spindles, we grind them off, what is there to stop the spindle from turning too much? The steering rack?

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Old Nov 3, 2015
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I believe that the bottom lip of the spindle now hits the bottom lip of the lower control arm right after the spot you grind off of the bottom edge of it.
 
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