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Explorer Leafs

Im planning on swapping my stock leafs for a set from an explorer, still use the flip kit and flip my rear hangers...


any one see any downsides?
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The X leafs are stronger and will prolly lift you up an inch in the back, I was tlaking to dangerRanger from RPS at the daytona meet he said there was a difference cause he had a set of Ranger ones and a set of X leafs. The X leafs lifted him up in the back about 1 inch.
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yeah, thats not a problem for me
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as long as you keep in mind that the leaves are under the axle in the explorer. if you mount them with a flip kit on the ranger, it will be in the stock position of an explorer, and give you a stock ride height. youd have to do something crazy with the shackles. i dont see anything wrong with the idea, but id like to honestly and respectfully ask why?
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as long as you keep in mind that the leaves are under the axle in the explorer. if you mount them with a flip kit on the ranger, it will be in the stock position of an explorer, and give you a stock ride height. youd have to do something crazy with the shackles. i dont see anything wrong with the idea, but id like to honestly and respectfully ask why?
trying to help a buddy out by giving him my stock leafs, and i have a set of explorer leafs just sitting around and i plan to put them on my truck, use my flip kit and flip my hangers(since i already flipped them once all i have to do is reflip them) and hope to attain the same amount of drop with a stiffer suspension while increasing my payload
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is the payload on the explorer really more than the payload of a pickup truck? im just curious.
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well, i know they are stronger leafs so i thought they might up the payload on my ranger??
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is the payload on the explorer really more than the payload of a pickup truck? im just curious.

here's a comparison on ford's 2005 models:

https://www.fleet.ford.com/products/...05_default.asp
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those are trailer ratings christian, do you have any payload charts? ie weight that can actually be held by the vehicles own suspension. for instance how much weight can go in the bed of the ranger.
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Calculating the load your vehicle can carry/tow
1. Use the appropriate maximum gross combined weight rating (GCWR)
chart to find the maximum GCWR for
your type engine and rear axle ratio.
2. Weigh your vehicle as you customarily operate the vehicle without
cargo. To obtain correct weights, try taking your vehicle to a shipping
company or an inspection station for trucks.
3. Subtract your loaded vehicle weight from the maximum GCWR on the
following charts. This is the maximum trailer weight your vehicle can tow
and must fall below the maximum shown under maximum trailer weight
on the chart.
i guess carry and tow are the same? i have no idea.. lol
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ha ha, carry and tow are not the same, i wonder if rwenzing or john could help us out, what we really need is the PAYLOAD capacity, the towing accounts for engine power, trans etc, and thats not important to us when trying to determine if the leafs are stronger.
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ok scott i did the research, the ranger payload capacity is about 1250 lbs, and the explorer is about 1450 lbs, so you ARE getting about 200 more pounds payload.
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I think not. He's getting MORE. The Ex probably has 200 pounds of glass in the back, and more sheet metal, rear liftgate, etc. It weighs a LOT more. I'd expect Explorer leafs on a Ranger to be much stronger.

Payload capacity only implies what the truck can carry in ADDITION TO it's weight. Since the Ex's are heavier to begin with, you're getting a big boost -- and probably a ride as stiff as an add-a-leaf!
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yeah youre probably right john. either way, hes getting more weight holding capacity, but probably is looking at a stiffer ride. air bags ?
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... air bags ?
Yeah...placed under your butt!!!
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I hope you're not wanting to "handle" well with these things.

I'm using the stock leafs in my setup, and the ride is pretty damn bouncy in the rear. Combine that with spirited driving, and things get pretty squirrelly. In fact, if I didn't fish in tournaments, I would have bought a monoleaf. BUT, axle wrap is more pronounced....monos aren't known for their exceptional launching ability.

But back to the Explorer leaf, it will definately increase your payload capability.
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do you think explorer leafs would be harder then add-a-leafs??? i was also thinking of doing this because i don't like how much stock leafs drop under the smallest of loads. i want something softer then add-a-leafs though. also how much lift would i get out of them in a stock postion
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Explorer leafs were engineered to ride relativley nice, but they were also intended to have the extra 500 pounds or so over them. Unloaded, and in our trucks, they probably ride similarly to an add-a-leaf setup. Basically, Explorer leafs are just Ranger leafs, with an extra leaf, so......

Although I'm sure the spring rates are slightly different as well. But I have no specs on that.
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i have seen people swap in chevy silverado springs on our trucks... but they do that to get a lifted rear end...
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I have Silverado lift shackles, FWIW.
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i have seen people swap in chevy silverado springs on our trucks... but they do that to get a lifted rear end...


i didnt do it for lift.
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