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Old Oct 30, 2005
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Problem With AALs

I ordered some AALs from Summit last week so today i was gunna install them...

and i opened the package of bolts and there were 3 different sizes..so that was the 1st question..did i get the wrong bolts sent to me?

then...how in the poop do these things work..i understand that you take out hte 2" block put these between the 3 springs and that little straight spring..but once you tighten that down and tighten the U-bolts back that AAL goes flat and didnt add crap...is there somethin that im not understanding or what..so i didnt install them cuz the bolt issue but when i get ready to install these i dont wanna run into any problems..i just dont see how they add 2 1/2"..cuz i went ahead and put one side on to see what it would look like and it was sittin lower then what i started with so its lke it lowereed my truck
 
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picks evan? and why didnt u call me back?
 
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One AAL can service a wide variety of trucks with different springs. The center bolt can be a different size/length depending on the spring pack the AAL is added to. That is most likely why several bolts are included.

I can't answer your other question. I can't see your install and it's a mystery to me.
 
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yeah, gotta see the install, i got about 2 inches out of mine, explorer pro comp universals
 
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ill get pics tomorrow and point to stuff...but i got 3 different size bolts..so shouldnt there be 2 of the same size so it can lock the springs in from twisting...

so am i right bout the placement as it goes between the 3 long springs and the short one..but the thing i dont understand is..once you torque down the U-bolts and the spring bolt wont it flatten out the aal leavin it with a lift of how thick the metal is...

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picks evan? and why didnt u call me back?
once i figured out that it was not as easy as i thought i knew that i was pushin for time and didnt wanna rush cuz i had to be ready to go to larry the cable guy so i wouldnt of had time to crank alight and lift in the back...so it will wait until next weekend
 
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What SHOULD happen, is the AAL will exert force on the existing pack, causing it to arch more.

Second, the leaves are secured in the middle with a single bolt. What keeps them from "twisting" is the clamps around the leaves up top, and there are some angle pieces between the bottom leaf and the overload to keep it from moving.

The bottom most flat leaf is called the "overload" spring. It "catches" the other leaves when they are overflexed and stiffens them.

The piece you added should be ABOVE the overload, but beneath the other 3 leaves. Is this how you added it? It should have been arched with the ends pointing UPWARD and I'm thinking this is how you put it on, yes?
 
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Little off topic but how much does this stiffen the ride?
 
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it stiffens it quite a bit.

i think john covered it pretty well evan, and forget larry the cable guy, moddin the truck is much more fun
 
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Originally Posted by zabeard
it stiffens it quite a bit.

i think john covered it pretty well evan, and forget larry the cable guy, moddin the truck is much more fun
lol Git-R-done..

yes John i put it on there..i got a friend that is a mechianic and he wa slike i dunno if it goes like that..lol..then i got kinda scared so i quit lol...but he was saying that the bolt needs to be snug so it locks the springs from moving once there put all togehter...so im gunna call pro comp and see what the deal is there..

but now...the part that is gettin me is....but once everythin is torqued back down wont the aal be flatted to match the other springs which will only lift the thickness of the metal??
 
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it will flatten it some but not all the way.

your worrying too much
 
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Originally Posted by HighRollerII
but now...the part that is gettin me is....but once everythin is torqued back down wont the aal be flatted to match the other springs which will only lift the thickness of the metal??
I covered that already. I said it would cause the other springs to arch more. It's supposed to be quite stiff and force the entire pack to bend -- that's how it works. If it doesn't do that, either it's defective, or you have it on there wrong.
 
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Evan, just do something, and freak out and ask 1000 question later...I'm having flashbacks of all the tire threads you started...
 
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Originally Posted by 034x4
Evan, just do something, and freak out and ask 1000 question later...I'm having flashbacks of all the tire threads you started...
lol...


lol....

well the reason im kinda not wanting to do it is because my buddy the mechanic was like i dont think it goes like that..and was askin me questions that i didnt know so thats why i was like kinda like EH..

but this weekend if i dont go to Tenn.. then it will be done...

i just didnt want to mess up my junk..lol..
 
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alrighty...i got it straight now..but im left with one problem..i got 3 different size bolts..2 are the same there small then one fits the hole perfect..waht to do...get another bolt that fits tight or use the small ones?
 
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are you just raising the rear for now or are u doing the front too?
 
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Originally Posted by j18willis
are you just raising the rear for now or are u doing the front too?
T-bars..im gunna add a 1" block in the rear also
 
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Go and get another bolt.
 
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Originally Posted by n3elz
Go and get another bolt.
oh yeah im an idiot i dumped out the box and there was another bolt lol..so i got 2 big and 2 small so its all good..

it will be done this week..but im still tryin to figure out if i need a 1" block or not
 
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john he is having more problems then with AALs. he just told me he just noticed he has 4 bolts. he miss counted lol
 
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Originally Posted by HighRollerII
oh yeah im an idiot i dumped out the box and there was another bolt lol..so i got 2 big and 2 small so its all good..

it will be done this week..but im still tryin to figure out if i need a 1" block or not

u beat me to it
 
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Originally Posted by zabeard
u beat me to it

POST ***** lol..just playin man..

but this weekend it will be done and maybe even before it...cant wait

i take it the other bolts are for another vechile since they are made for other trucks
 
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Hey, dump it out again! Maybe there's more AAL's in there also!
 
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Originally Posted by n3elz
Hey, dump it out again! Maybe there's more AAL's in there also!
maybe summit put a 3" body lift in there also..lol...
 
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your dreaming agian evan
 
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Originally Posted by zabeard
your dreaming agian evan

i like keepin my hopes high
 
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