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#26
Ha ha! Well, it's not like you're married to it. A steering box can always be replaced.
I haven't looked into the whole hydraulics issue and why one box might work and another not (pressure and volume requirements). I know the pump in the Ranger pretty much sucks, so I'm wondering also if you guys have any thoughts on that.
I've seem mods on the valving to increase the flow, not sure how effective it is -- or if those mods even work on our pumps.
I haven't looked into the whole hydraulics issue and why one box might work and another not (pressure and volume requirements). I know the pump in the Ranger pretty much sucks, so I'm wondering also if you guys have any thoughts on that.
I've seem mods on the valving to increase the flow, not sure how effective it is -- or if those mods even work on our pumps.
#27
The IFS Yota box, can withstand the abuse. Toyota Guys have been replacing the stock steering boxes on their Solid Axle Toyota's (85 and older) For years now, with the IFS boxes. Another plus of the IFS box is that they are "easily" Tapped for Hydro Assist.
This is the Toyota Box we are talking about. There are two styles of this box. This style was made from 86-89. The other was from 90 on.
This is the Toyota Box we are talking about. There are two styles of this box. This style was made from 86-89. The other was from 90 on.
Last edited by redranger4.0; 01-29-2007 at 04:25 AM.
#28
#30
Originally Posted by n3elz
Thanks. Of the two styles, is the older one preferable for any reason? I think I've seen guys cite they are using alike a '92 box as well.
Maybe I'll start another thread for this (or should) -- but what about coupling our steering shafts in? How hard is that?
Maybe I'll start another thread for this (or should) -- but what about coupling our steering shafts in? How hard is that?
Here is the Bleed instructions for the IFS yota boxes, This is off Trail-Gears website.
Bleeding Instructions
#31
Originally Posted by HighRollerII
ive heard to stay away from yota..and go with a GM box..parts are easier to find and cheaper..
yay or nay?
yay or nay?
Last edited by redranger4.0; 01-29-2007 at 06:35 AM.
#32
there is a guy on here (Chris aka ShoNuff82) running a chevy power steering pump.
Not sure why he choose that pump but I am trying to find out.
I plan on running a yota box, i have one now, but instead of plating the frame i think i am going to weld bushings on the inside of the frame for the 3 bolts and let the bolts go all the way through the frame, this will stiffen the frame where i need so that the frame cannot crush or twist.
Originally Posted by ShoNuff82
Toyota IFS steering Box
Chevy Saginaw pump
Proform Electric Fan (sucks)
37 x 12.50 MTR's
Battery in back
Homemade Rock Sliders and bumpers
Tube frame from firewall forward
Chevy Saginaw pump
Proform Electric Fan (sucks)
37 x 12.50 MTR's
Battery in back
Homemade Rock Sliders and bumpers
Tube frame from firewall forward
I plan on running a yota box, i have one now, but instead of plating the frame i think i am going to weld bushings on the inside of the frame for the 3 bolts and let the bolts go all the way through the frame, this will stiffen the frame where i need so that the frame cannot crush or twist.
#33
Originally Posted by zabeard
there is a guy on here (Chris aka ShoNuff82) running a chevy power steering pump.
Not sure why he choose that pump but I am trying to find out.
I plan on running a yota box, i have one now, but instead of plating the frame i think i am going to weld bushings on the inside of the frame for the 3 bolts and let the bolts go all the way through the frame, this will stiffen the frame where i need so that the frame cannot crush or twist.
Not sure why he choose that pump but I am trying to find out.
I plan on running a yota box, i have one now, but instead of plating the frame i think i am going to weld bushings on the inside of the frame for the 3 bolts and let the bolts go all the way through the frame, this will stiffen the frame where i need so that the frame cannot crush or twist.
I found that the frame has to be plated as the "crush" zone of the frame is right there where the steering box would go. The frame bulges out becuase of this. I cut that section out and welded the plate over it.
#34
Originally Posted by redranger4.0
I found that the frame has to be plated as the "crush" zone of the frame is right there where the steering box would go. The frame bulges out becuase of this. I cut that section out and welded the plate over it.
You cut the whole frame? or just the outside?
I will have some 1/4" plate for a few other things i am doing ill just add that in there as im doing it. I'm still going to use bushings inside it tho.
#35
Originally Posted by zabeard
You cut the whole frame? or just the outside?
I will have some 1/4" plate for a few other things i am doing ill just add that in there as im doing it. I'm still going to use bushings inside it tho.
I will have some 1/4" plate for a few other things i am doing ill just add that in there as im doing it. I'm still going to use bushings inside it tho.
#38
#40
I also just recieved an email back from the Product Engineer from Trail-Gear about the yota IFS box. He said they recommend the Older style IFS box because it has a Larger and stronger Sector Shaft then the newer ones. The sector shaft for those who don't know is the "output" of the steering box.
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#48
What about the TJ and YJ style Steering box. I think you could use these box. The 99 V8 Durango has a TJ style steering box. So much so that the Durango is a direct bolt in for a Tj and it is a heck of a lot stronger. I also believe the Dakotas of 99 are the same as the Durango steering wise. I am also sure you could make something work form one of these manufactures.
ARG
http://www.agrperformance.com/
PSC
http://www.pscmotorsports.com/
Howe
http://www.howeperformance.com/rockcrawling.html
Info for Toyota Steering Boxes.
http://www.marlincrawler.com/htm/steering.htm
http://www.allprooffroad.com/
ARG
http://www.agrperformance.com/
PSC
http://www.pscmotorsports.com/
Howe
http://www.howeperformance.com/rockcrawling.html
Info for Toyota Steering Boxes.
http://www.marlincrawler.com/htm/steering.htm
http://www.allprooffroad.com/
#49
Originally Posted by Rangerless
What about the TJ and YJ style Steering box. I think you could use these box. The 99 V8 Durango has a TJ style steering box. So much so that the Durango is a direct bolt in for a Tj and it is a heck of a lot stronger. I also believe the Dakotas of 99 are the same as the Durango steering wise.
#50
For best steering geometry, your track-bar mount (if you have one) and your sector shaft should be on the same side of the frame. Mine will attach to the shock mount on the outside of the frame, so the steering box will need to go there also, or I'll need to re-engineer the track-bar mount.