SAS Starting Points
#51
Originally Posted by n3elz
For best steering geometry, your track-bar mount (if you have one) and your sector shaft should be on the same side of the frame. Mine will attach to the shock mount on the outside of the frame, so the steering box will need to go there also, or I'll need to re-engineer the track-bar mount.
#53
Correct, and for the same reason.
Sometimes, bent bars are used for clearance, so a better way to say it would be that the angle between the end points of each bar should be the same.
If you look at a system with a creatively bent rod or bar, it may not look like they are parallel, but the angle between the endpoints on each of them is the same.
Sometimes, bent bars are used for clearance, so a better way to say it would be that the angle between the end points of each bar should be the same.
If you look at a system with a creatively bent rod or bar, it may not look like they are parallel, but the angle between the endpoints on each of them is the same.
#54
Originally Posted by redranger4.0
This is a very important design aspect. If your Pan hard (tracbar) is not mounted on the same side your steering box is, when the suspension compresses the axle will move in the opposite direction as the drag link which will cause your tires to turn and result in "bump steer". It is also important for your Pan hard bar to be as close in length and mounting points to your drag link as possible. The flatter your Drag link the better.
IE my yota box is on the outside and say i wanted to make my trac bar bracket on the inside of the frame
#55
Originally Posted by Big04Ranger
are you meaning the same frame rail or the same side of the same frame rail?
IE my yota box is on the outside and say i wanted to make my trac bar bracket on the inside of the frame
IE my yota box is on the outside and say i wanted to make my trac bar bracket on the inside of the frame
#57
Originally Posted by Big04Ranger
are you meaning the same frame rail or the same side of the same frame rail?
IE my yota box is on the outside and say i wanted to make my trac bar bracket on the inside of the frame
IE my yota box is on the outside and say i wanted to make my trac bar bracket on the inside of the frame
#60
Double Triangulated 4 link:
I thought this was a very good picture of this type of suspension. I realize this is a Rear 4 link but its the same idea. This type of suspension will have no nominal side to side movement like a panhard type suspension. The down sides are clearance in the front and also that fact that this suspension should not be ran with a steering box, and only used with Full hydro steering. This is cause the suspension will move in a perpendicular plane compared to a drag link and will cause horrible steering effects.
I thought this was a very good picture of this type of suspension. I realize this is a Rear 4 link but its the same idea. This type of suspension will have no nominal side to side movement like a panhard type suspension. The down sides are clearance in the front and also that fact that this suspension should not be ran with a steering box, and only used with Full hydro steering. This is cause the suspension will move in a perpendicular plane compared to a drag link and will cause horrible steering effects.
#63
Originally Posted by Lefty04LevelII
my brain hurts just reading all this and I have the day off.
Link Suspension for Dummies...
#64
#65
Once the winter is over, I'll most likely be building a double triangulated 4-link front and rear of the Jeep. I'm sticking with the steering box rather than full hydro tho because I want the option of driving it on the street. The plan is TJ springs and 4 adjustable links at each end. It should be a fun project.
#66
Originally Posted by TBarCYa
Once the winter is over, I'll most likely be building a double triangulated 4-link front and rear of the Jeep. I'm sticking with the steering box rather than full hydro tho because I want the option of driving it on the street. The plan is TJ springs and 4 adjustable links at each end. It should be a fun project.
#67
I'm running leaf springs and no track bar up front now so as long as the links are parallel to the ground when at ride height, it shouldn't be any worse than it is now on the street. Once I flex the front suspension, there may be problems but I'll have to see if I can live with it. The plan is to tube fender the front and rear to clear the 35s and lower it as much as possible to fit the 35s and have a minimum of 3" of uptravel. That should leave me with 15" of downtravel on the shocks I have now and should be great on the rocks and low enough to pass the NJ stability test.
As far as the hydraulic steering goes, I believe that NJ law states that there must be mechanical connections between components of the steering system, but I'll have to look it up.
As far as the hydraulic steering goes, I believe that NJ law states that there must be mechanical connections between components of the steering system, but I'll have to look it up.
#71
Originally Posted by redranger4.0
just run a 3 link with panhard you get all the good aspects of the 4 link and you can run your steering box with out problems.
#75
Originally Posted by redranger4.0
just run a 3 link with panhard you get all the good aspects of the 4 link and you can run your steering box with out problems.
Once it's done, the Jeep will see very little street use, if any at all. Most likely, I will use it for winter driving only and trailer it to the trails.