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it was his rear axle, so im assuming it was the 8.8 not the 44
even worse!!
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Thats why I have superior shafts in the rear and a 31 spline 8.8 .

Just so you know, 4-6" "lift" leaf springs will lift your truck about 7-8". I have STOCK rise waggy springs and i'm sitting at 5" of lift, and mine are not mounted parallell. If they would i'd have a bout 6.5" of lift.
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Thats why I have superior shafts in the rear and a 31 spline 8.8 .

Just so you know, 4-6" "lift" leaf springs will lift your truck about 7-8". I have STOCK rise waggy springs and i'm sitting at 5" of lift, and mine are not mounted parallell. If they would i'd have a bout 6.5" of lift.
Uh oh, I'll prolly just put stockies in then. I want like 5-6" of lift from stock (thats about what I have now, is 5") And my rear is 1" higher right now, so I can deal with 6"
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Well, I'm going to save up and get some primo **** for when I do the SAS, and of course, I'll have another vehicle to drive, so I can take my time. Here's my list of junk so far:

Front
-Custom Width Currie 9" with High Pinion 3rd Member
-Spicer 35spline Chromoly Axle Shafts
-ARB Locker
-5.00 Gears for 35s
-High Clearance/Skidplate Options
-Either Deadenbear or Crane Inners/Outers with Hi-Steer Brackets
-F450 Unit Bearings
-Warn F450 Locking Hubs
-BTF Coil Mounting Kit
-Skyjacker 8" Lift Coils
-Bilstein 7100s
-Custom Adjustable Radius Arms

Rear
-Custom Width Currie 9" with High Pinion 3rd Member
-Spicer 35spline Chromoly Axle Shafts
-ARB Locker
-5.00 Gears for 35s
-High Clearance/Skidplate Options
-BTF Coil Mounting Kit
-Skyjacker 8" Lift Coils
-Bilstein 7100s
-Custom Adjustable Radius Arms

Transmission will probably be a C4

Transfercase will probably be an Atlas 4sp

Tom Woods Driveshafts

CTM or OX U-Joints

I think that's pretty much it.
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you will also have to replace the transmission to make it attach to a transfer case....the tail shafts are different....the 1 for a 4x4's shaft is longer........please dont get a axle out of an early bronco.....it is the easiest swap as it is the correct width, but it is a low pinion and will limit the lift you put on it......you can have a full size Dana 44 cut down for a decent price.........and it will have disc brakes.........you can also send your rear axle shafts out to Moser or to any machine shop and they can redrill them to accept the 5x5.5 bolt pattern........dont forget you will need new wheels.......
actually the 4x4 output shaft is shorter than the 2wd
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actually the 4x4 output shaft is shorter than the 2wd
yea well i knew one was different than the other.......lol
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yea well i knew one was different than the other.......lol
yea i thought the same thing. except i know from experience because i have a 2wd tranny that i made a BW1350 mout up to.
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yea i thought the same thing. except i know from experience because i have a 2wd tranny that i made a BW1350 mout up to.
must have been 1 hella spacer.....
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Uh oh, I'll prolly just put stockies in then. I want like 5-6" of lift from stock (thats about what I have now, is 5") And my rear is 1" higher right now, so I can deal with 6"
i know you have people helpin already but i have done the swap also. got mine done and drivin in about 9 total hours. i even used the wagoneer brake lines. who wouldve known they BOLT right to the stock ranger lines(with a 1/4inch taken out of the caliper bolt.) and it gives you extended lines. if you need any help or some friendly advice im not too far from you. i live by and know ryan. his truck is bad as yall know. hell it was bad when he had the IFS on it.
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must have been 1 hella spacer.....
5 1/2 inches. now my front driveshaft is longer then the rear
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Well, I'm going to save up and get some primo **** for when I do the SAS, and of course, I'll have another vehicle to drive, so I can take my time. Here's my list of junk so far:

Front
-Custom Width Currie 9" with High Pinion 3rd Member
-Spicer 35spline Chromoly Axle Shafts
-ARB Locker
-5.00 Gears for 35s
-High Clearance/Skidplate Options
-Either Deadenbear or Crane Inners/Outers with Hi-Steer Brackets
-F450 Unit Bearings
-Warn F450 Locking Hubs
-BTF Coil Mounting Kit
-Skyjacker 8" Lift Coils
-Bilstein 7100s
-Custom Adjustable Radius Arms

Rear
-Custom Width Currie 9" with High Pinion 3rd Member
-Spicer 35spline Chromoly Axle Shafts
-ARB Locker
-5.00 Gears for 35s
-High Clearance/Skidplate Options
-BTF Coil Mounting Kit
-Skyjacker 8" Lift Coils
-Bilstein 7100s
-Custom Adjustable Radius Arms

Transmission will probably be a C4

Transfercase will probably be an Atlas 4sp

Tom Woods Driveshafts

CTM or OX U-Joints

I think that's pretty much it.

that will be an awsome setup. definatly shouldnt let you down for a loonngg time
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i know you have people helpin already but i have done the swap also. got mine done and drivin in about 9 total hours. i even used the wagoneer brake lines. who wouldve known they BOLT right to the stock ranger lines(with a 1/4inch taken out of the caliper bolt.) and it gives you extended lines. if you need any help or some friendly advice im not too far from you. i live by and know ryan. his truck is bad as yall know. hell it was bad when he had the IFS on it.
Definetly sounds like a plan...I'll talk to him more and see whats up
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Thats why I have superior shafts in the rear and a 31 spline 8.8 .
and besides the 42s, this joto did it right (the first time)...
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Well, I'm going to save up and get some primo **** for when I do the SAS, and of course, I'll have another vehicle to drive, so I can take my time. Here's my list of junk so far:

Front
-Custom Width Currie 9" with High Pinion 3rd Member
-Spicer 35spline Chromoly Axle Shafts
-ARB Locker
-5.00 Gears for 35s
-High Clearance/Skidplate Options
-Either Deadenbear or Crane Inners/Outers with Hi-Steer Brackets
-F450 Unit Bearings
-Warn F450 Locking Hubs
-BTF Coil Mounting Kit
-Skyjacker 8" Lift Coils
-Bilstein 7100s
-Custom Adjustable Radius Arms

Rear
-Custom Width Currie 9" with High Pinion 3rd Member
-Spicer 35spline Chromoly Axle Shafts
-ARB Locker
-5.00 Gears for 35s
-High Clearance/Skidplate Options
-BTF Coil Mounting Kit
-Skyjacker 8" Lift Coils
-Bilstein 7100s
-Custom Adjustable Radius Arms

Transmission will probably be a C4

Transfercase will probably be an Atlas 4sp

Tom Woods Driveshafts

CTM or OX U-Joints

I think that's pretty much it.

Wow, thats a little crazy dude!!! Thats a lotta money
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Well, I'm going to save up and get some primo **** for when I do the SAS, and of course, I'll have another vehicle to drive, so I can take my time. Here's my list of junk so far:

Front
-Custom Width Currie 9" with High Pinion 3rd Member
-Spicer 35spline Chromoly Axle Shafts
-ARB Locker
-5.00 Gears for 35s
-High Clearance/Skidplate Options
-Either Deadenbear or Crane Inners/Outers with Hi-Steer Brackets
-F450 Unit Bearings
-Warn F450 Locking Hubs
-BTF Coil Mounting Kit
-Skyjacker 8" Lift Coils
-Bilstein 7100s
-Custom Adjustable Radius Arms

Rear
-Custom Width Currie 9" with High Pinion 3rd Member
-Spicer 35spline Chromoly Axle Shafts
-ARB Locker
-5.00 Gears for 35s
-High Clearance/Skidplate Options
-BTF Coil Mounting Kit
-Skyjacker 8" Lift Coils
-Bilstein 7100s
-Custom Adjustable Radius Arms

Transmission will probably be a C4

Transfercase will probably be an Atlas 4sp

Tom Woods Driveshafts

CTM or OX U-Joints

I think that's pretty much it.
I Hope you mean HI-9 and not Curries HP 3rds. curries HP 3rds are actually 8.8 gears not the strong design of the 9".
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hm...does anyone make a real high pinion 9" 3rd member?
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Hey, i have a couple questions also... I have just a few more things to buy before I start my SAS...

My truck is a 97. I am using a 1982 Wagoneer Front Dana 44 (Leaf Spring) and an Isuzu Rodeo Rear Dana 44 (Disc Brake and matches front 44 bolt pattern).

My questions are:

1. Will my current steering gear box work? I know they changed them after 97, but I'm not sure...

2. I'm pretty sure pre-98 rangers had the speed sensor in the tranny. Correct? That would mean i can use any rear axle i want (ABS is not a necessity).

3. I am currently running 36x13.50's and have 5.71 gears in my 8.8. The rear Dana 44 has 4.10 gears. Do you think this would be sufficient in handling 36's?

4. Would I have to run any form of wheel spacers on my front axle in order to clear the leaf springs when turning? I know Jey did, but I'm not sure if he did it from necessity or just wanted to...

If anyone can answer these questions, I would greatly appreciate it!

Thanks!
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hm...does anyone make a real high pinion 9" 3rd member?
yeah the company is "TrueHi9"...
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haha... thanks.
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also, some people just flip the 9"ers. with how much contact area 9" rear ends have, running coast side isnt really a problem...
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i thought about that... they are both really expensive either way, better just get what i want.
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i like your list but radius arms arent usually such a great idear in the rear...
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HI-9 did some neat stuff with their HP 9". Thrust blocks and custom casting and machining on the gears. plus their Customer service is top notch.

Im with Gildo about the rear radius arms. better off going with a triangulated 4link.
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and besides the 42s, this joto did it right (the first time)...
don't worry, sold the 42's
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don't worry, sold the 42's
im more worried about wheeling pics and vids, aaathank you...

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