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Stronger T-Bars?

I was wondering if anyone happens to remember the Ford part number for the strongest Torsion Bars for a 2004 EDGE. I have the really weak ones and want the stronger ones because I feel they are about to go south if you know what I mean. I know somone on GE just got some but we all know what happened with that. Bob do you happen to remember?


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you can get the aftermarket bars, the effect your ground clearance though and i forget who makes them. im pretty sure its james duff though.
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you can get the aftermarket bars, the effect your ground clearance though and i forget who makes them. im pretty sure its james duff though.
No body makes an aftermarket bar for rangers. The only way to do it is to get exporer bars, which ones, I dont know.

EDIT: EX bars arnt the only way, there are several ranger bars, but the stiffest ones are on explorers.

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I know you can find out which ones you have by looking at the number code on the door jam. 1 is the best.
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they arent torsion bars but they work the same way and fit. does anybody know wut im talking about? they are bars in the shape of a triangle.
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First, which bars do you have? Look on the sticker on your door pillar under the "SPR" part and you'll have a 2 character field like "FK" or "1F".

The first character indicates your front t-bar spring rate. F is the weakest, going up in spring rate to A, then 2, then 1. The second character indicates the rear leaf spring rate.

1's are the strongest I've ever seen. FX4 LII's with generally have 1's.

Depending on your truck and what you're trying to do, you may want to go up some, but not all the way.

On my 4x2 3.0L Edge, I went from F bars to B bars and it was quite an inprovement.

Best place to get them is JY's -- you can find out what's on the vehicle by reading the door pillar sticker.
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I was wondering if anyone happens to remember the Ford part number for the strongest Torsion Bars for a 2004 EDGE. I have the really weak ones and want the stronger ones because I feel they are about to go south if you know what I mean. I know somone on GE just got some but we all know what happened with that. Bob do you happen to remember?


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From research done on the Serious Explorations site and by John Griggs and others, a torsion bar table was compiled.

This is from a G-E post that I saved:

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Spring rates by torsion bar code:

<-higher lower->

1 2 B D E F K L

I checked my Level II and it has the #1 bars. Apparently, most Explorer bars are B and D in the range.

You can find your own T-bar code by looking at the door jamb sticker under "SPR". The first character in the "SPR" box is the front spring code. The second is the rear spring code.


http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/...ad.php?t=39469
http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/...ad.php?t=18752

And here's another G-E post about #1 bar codes:

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OK a bit of an update....I have part numbers for the code 1 bars.The left and right bars are not the same so two diff numbers.

F67Z#5B326#FA Pass side bar 1stfordparts price $37.72
F67Z#5B326#FB Drivers side bar 1stfordparts price $37.38

These are code 1 bars and should be the strongest bars available.The exploder bars are not as strong as code 1 bars per ford.
rwenzing was kind enugh to give me his vin cause his truck has code 1 bars
with out his vin there is no way I would have found the part numbers for the bars so big thanks to him.The dealer price is $53 for each bar and no
local dealer has any bars on hand any where near me.


For reference, from the 2002 S/M

Available 2002 Ranger torsion bars: 1, B, F
Available 2002 Ranger leaf springs: 3,7,C,K,N

Notice that some of the rear leaf springs are not on the torsion bar table. The leaf springs have a table of their own.
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Man thanks a bunch Bob that is exactly what I was wanting, you came through for me agian. Thanks to everyone else for the help too!

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FYI, the reason the bars are different part numbers is because they are different length. About 2" if I remember correctly.

Thanks, Bob. I have no idea what I did with the table I downloaded. I didn't do much "research", but thanks for the tip-of-the-hat. Most of the info I got from Serious Explorations as well, where I am a quite "inactive" member.
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the new generation-edge also has a bit on removing torsion bars in their how-to section, and it has part numbers for the 1 spring rate bars also
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Would the #1 bars just give you a stiffer ride, or will it crank the front end up and somewhat keep your ride quality the same??
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The spring rate is higher meaning that it takes more force to twist the bar a certain number of degrees. Your ride will be firmer with the higher rate bars but not necessarily bad. The ride height is adjustable regardless of which torsion bar you use.
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The spring rate is higher meaning that it takes more force to twist the bar a certain number of degrees. Your ride will be firmer with the higher rate bars but not necessarily bad. The ride height is adjustable regardless of which torsion bar you use.
I have a 99 XLT supercab 4X4, My torsion bars are already cranked up all the way, I went under there to try and crank them but it was a no-go. But the front of the truck doesn't really sit that well, it looks like a normal 4x4 xlt ranger. The fx4, edge, and off-road models all sit higher in the front than mine does.

So, I guess that if I get new torsion bars, I might as well get some better stronger ones than what's in there now.
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something you might wish to consider before going to the stiffest bar around. The ' Jolt' Factor. I grabbed 5 different sets of bars when I lowered my truck. Different twist rates ARE noticable between them. F's were sloppy ( stock on my truck initially ) . 1's made it ride like a brick, there was little to no suspension movement when I hit a pothole.

I finally settled with 'B' type bars. Their not too stiff and yet not to firm. I know John has B's and hes done QUITE a lift on his truck and has 35inch tires as well. Its QUITE capable offroading.

With the 'B' bars, Edelbrock shocks, my truck rides a LOT nicer then stock.

I'm sticking with 'B' rated bars myself. Check your local Boneyards before going to a dealership. A new set of bars from a dealer runs over 100$, I'm quite sure you can get a different set cheaper

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I have a 99 XLT supercab 4X4, My torsion bars are already cranked up all the way, I went under there to try and crank them but it was a no-go. But the front of the truck doesn't really sit that well, it looks like a normal 4x4 xlt ranger. The fx4, edge, and off-road models all sit higher in the front than mine does.

So, I guess that if I get new torsion bars, I might as well get some better stronger ones than what's in there now.
I agree with D that the #1 bars are not right for everyone and probably wouldn't be a good idea on a lighter truck. All of the recent 4.0 4x4 supercabs I have checked came from the factory with #1 bars, not the just the Level II's. I think they would work well on your 99.
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Hey bob what you think I should get for my truck. I am wanting to lift it with the spindle lift.
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Hey bob what you think I should get for my truck. I am wanting to lift it with the spindle lift.
How about the B's like John has? He has a supercab with a spindle lift and could tell you how it works in the real world. Your reg cab is a bit lighter but is otherwise similar to his truck.
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Thanks for all your help.
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i'm rollin on 1C

what would a different rate of leafs mean?
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I agree with D that the #1 bars are not right for everyone and probably wouldn't be a good idea on a lighter truck. All of the recent 4.0 4x4 supercabs I have checked came from the factory with #1 bars, not the just the Level II's. I think they would work well on your 99.
I checked the sticker in my door this morning to see what's in the truck for torsion bars. It says BK under the letters SPR on the sticker. So ,I guess that I have the B torsion bars in there and the K leafs, correct?????

The next step up would either be # 1 or 2 bars.
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I checked the sticker in my door this morning to see what's in the truck for torsion bars. It says BK under the letters SPR on the sticker. So ,I guess that I have the B torsion bars in there and the K leafs, correct?????

The next step up would either be # 1 or 2 bars.
Sounds right.
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Sounds right.
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Does anyone know the Ford Part numbers for the B rated T-Bars??
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I have F's...that must be why my IFS actually flexed huh? well i HAD f's.
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I have a set of fx4 tbars if you want them roach. How does 50 sound for them. Let me know and we could work something out.
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