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TT just isnt high enough.

i did a torsion twist like a couple weeks ago, tighten the 1 bolt as tight as it would go, i broke a socket trying to get it tighter. And i tighten the other one so it was even. Only got like 1" of lift. I want 2" of lift. DO i just need to get longer bolts? where can i find them

would like to get the tt as much as i can, then level it out in the rear, then get 1" body lift.
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The correct term is torsion crank and i dont know if you can get longer bolts, you might be able to switch out to a higher rating torsion bar, but i dont know much about that. You could always do 1" body lift.
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either swap for #1 bars, or get longer bolts
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if you want more lift for cheap then do a 3'' body cranking the bars even more then what they should be by putting in a longer bolts i dunno about. Mine before the lift i did had them cranked all the way and it puts a good amount of stress on the front end. but its up to you
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heres the wierd thing though, my one bolt is maxed out, the other is only 1/2 tightend. I know i could get another inch out of the one but then it wouldnt be level.

I wouldnt really mind a stiffer ride, it rides kinda soft for my taste anyway.

Swapping out the bolts would be the easiest route it sounds like, but would putting in "#1" bars be better?

Im looking for 3" of lift, 2" susp 1" body

thanks for the input
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i would first check to see if you have #1 bars take a look on you door jam and look at the spr and see what it says mine said B and i put the #1 Bars in and it made it a little higher. There about $90 for the upgrade from ford. after your done take it to a shop to get it aligned and make sure they fix the camber thats what usually is off
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i have a 2" crank on mine. i could go all the way to just about 4" but i don't want a harsh, teeth rattling ride.
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i would first check to see if you have #1 bars take a look on you door jam and look at the spr and see what it says mine said B and i put the #1 Bars in and it made it a little higher. There about $90 for the upgrade from ford. after your done take it to a shop to get it aligned and make sure they fix the camber thats what usually is off

I didnt know they had upgrades from stock available at the dealership for that.. great information! Im trying to level out and make a tad more room for my 265's but cranking the T-Bar too much isnt anythign I plan on doing.. not until I throw the lift's I want into it.


I will call up the delearship service shop firs tthign in the morning and check this out.. thank you!!
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i did a torsion twist like a couple weeks ago, tighten the 1 bolt as tight as it would go, i broke a socket trying to get it tighter. And i tighten the other one so it was even. Only got like 1" of lift. I want 2" of lift. DO i just need to get longer bolts? where can i find them

would like to get the tt as much as i can, then level it out in the rear, then get 1" body lift.
Get the torsion bar keys/front and shackles for the back. Ebay sells em for $125 for the entire set, it'll give you 3" front and rear w/o the teeth-rattling ride.
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^^ thought of that when i was searching ebay, do they really work? anyone have them? I dont wanna be a test dummy on a cheap ebay part.
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^^ thought of that when i was searching ebay, do they really work? anyone have them? I dont wanna be a test dummy on a cheap ebay part.
I have mine waiting to be installed, but have to save $1000 for new tires and alignment. From what I have been told by the company that sells this product it DOES NOT put your lower/upper control arms at such an angle that it causes premature failure, so dont listen to anyone on here b/c they all talk down on torsion key lifts, when nobody has installed them. Did you look at the "Suspension Max" ones? There rep. told me that as long as you have proof of purchase that a professional installer installed this kit, and a recipt of an alignment job that they warrenty the parts. So once I install mine, if any of my components wear out premauturally, Im raising hell till they replace whatever effed up. It does put the cv shafts at an angle but not enough to cause failure of the component. Call the rep. for any other questions. The # is 1-888-660-5892
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if i can find someone who has them installed i might end up getting them. There has to be someone out there with them i mean its always on ebay.
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dont waste your money on silly keys, there garbage!

first, the bolts are different lengths from the factory. the right side is almost a half of an inch longer for some reason.
second, NEVER use longer bolts! this is just about the dumbest thing i have seen here on this site!

look at the door sticker and post the spring code, us smart people can help you from there.

sounds like you need new/better torsion bars as yours are worn out.
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Mark, unless you have installed them yourself, you dont have a clue. Thats like me saying "white Rangers tear up more than red ones" How am I supposed to know that when I have never owned a white Ranger or have associated with anyone who owned a white one? Like the good ole saying goes...dont knock it till you have tried it...

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Have you ever actually realised what torsion keys REALLY do? all they do is crank the torsion bars even further than the bolts do. the engineering behind them is really simple. picture your factory torsion bar cranked to the max of the bolt, now remove the torsion key and install a different key that starts the bars off already cranked to that max point so that you can use the bolts and twist them up even further. They put even more of an extreme angle on the control arms and CV shafts than the torsion crank alone does.
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dont waste your money on silly keys, there garbage!

first, the bolts are different lengths from the factory. the right side is almost a half of an inch longer for some reason.
second, NEVER use longer bolts! this is just about the dumbest thing i have seen here on this site!

look at the door sticker and post the spring code, us smart people can help you from there.

sounds like you need new/better torsion bars as yours are worn out.
I agree 100%, go ahead and spend the money and do it right, it will save your money in repairs in the long run.
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So Jason, Im assuming since you seem to know so much about aftermarket keys, you have had them on your truck?
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"white Rangers tear up more than red ones"
Uh it's common knowledge that red rangers tear up more than any other color.
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Uh it's common knowledge that red rangers tear up more than any other color.
Lol, well mine aint "red", its maroon. Glad it aint red...lol
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I would stay away from longer bolts as it sounds like those bars are streched to their limits.
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Get the torsion bar keys/front and shackles for the back. Ebay sells em for $125 for the entire set, it'll give you 3" front and rear w/o the teeth-rattling ride.
Those keys will cause excessive balljoint wear. I could turn the t-bars in the keys I made forward one position and have the same results as those e-bay ones.

Their a ' show item ' at best that will throw-out the geometry of travel.
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have you ever seen a torsion bar bent so much you could tie a string to each end and shoot an arrow? with that much crank on the torsion bar not only will the ride suck the bars will start to fatique. i have taken off a set of torsion keys from a silverado, and had to put stock keys and new torsion bars back on b/c the ones on the truck were bent... and it wasnt a slight bend... very noticeable.... thats just my experience with torsion keys...
just save for a spindle lift or whatever lift kit you are wanting
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For everyone talkin down on keys...unless yall have personally installed them on your personal truck then you have no idea on how much they may or may not put suspension components in a bind. I have personally seen a Ranger with aftermarket keys and its not as bad as everyone thinks. But, im sick and tired of trying to explain to ignorant people who have no idea what these keys do...that they do what they are supposed to do. A body lift is a "show item" but ppl love them. So, thats fine, buy a body lift, and then ppl gonna make fun of that ugly a$$ gap between the body and the frame...im done in this thread.
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i dont know why you are getting so upset about ppl talking down on a product. if it works for you, awsome, tell YOUR experience with it, not that "oh they work good, but i havent installed them yet." thats the same thing other people are doing but they are saying "they are crap, id never own them"

when i did work on the silverado with torsion keys, that was wen i was working at a lift shop, so i put on alot of lifts with torsion bars on different trucks and they rode good, until i drove the one with lift keys... was like riding in a wagon..
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i dont know why you are getting so upset about ppl talking down on a product. if it works for you, awsome, tell YOUR experience with it, not that "oh they work good, but i havent installed them yet." thats the same thing other people are doing but they are saying "they are crap, id never own them"

when i did work on the silverado with torsion keys, that was wen i was working at a lift shop, so i put on alot of lifts with torsion bars on different trucks and they rode good, until i drove the one with lift keys... was like riding in a wagon..
Its a 4x4 truck, i didnt expect a good ride. if i wanted a good ride i would of purchased a caddy. I aint upset, just expressing my opinoin like everyone else. I reckon im the only one on this forum with enough ***** to at least try em, and if they dont work as they are supposed to then I'll eat my own words. imo, its better than a body lift.
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