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Turning radius went to crap

After I got my 3'' spindles put on I barely make a u turn. Any sugestions on how to make this better?
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did you remove the steering stops and install the new ones in the kit? from what im told the turning radius is much smaller after spindles
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check your clearance on the lower control arm.. i know on RJs edge we had to grind off that lip b/c it hit.
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Look up my posts on replacing my spindles after they broke. If they're Fabtech, remove the stops they gave you to put on. Mine were much better without.

Also, I see somebody mentioned grinding the lower arm. ABSOLUTELY necessary or you will have major problems down the line. You can also cut them, but one way or another they need "trimming" on the outer radius of the curve that goes up against the spindle.
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So you finally got those damn things on. Congrats on that. I have no idea of how to improve your turning radius. I was trailing my buddy when he tried to u-turn after his spindles were installed, and he ended up 3 point turning in the middle of the street to get around.
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Look up my posts on replacing my spindles after they broke. If they're Fabtech, remove the stops they gave you to put on. Mine were much better without.

Also, I see somebody mentioned grinding the lower arm. ABSOLUTELY necessary or you will have major problems down the line. You can also cut them, but one way or another they need "trimming" on the outer radius of the curve that goes up against the spindle.
4WP was gonna do that but they said my callipers would hit so that was a no go.
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4WP are idiots.. atleast the ones ive been too...
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4WP are idiots.. atleast the ones ive been too...
Very true. But why would they give them to you if they didnt need them?
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Your calipers MAY hit when the brakes are pretty worn. Mine aren't. They always did on my Doetsch. The Fabtech are different.

Even if they do hit, it's better than having reduced turning radius -- I drove like that for a long time -- I just pumped the brakes after a lock-stop turn.
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hmm, I dunno if I want to do it this way because I want my brakes and suspension to be in working non rubbing order. But intead of taking the whole thing off couldnt you just make it smaller some how to where it gives you more turning radius without hitting?
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Mine does the same thing with having to pump the brakes after sharp turns. I still have the stock steer-stops though. Did the having to pump the brakes go away when you ground them off, Mr. Griggs?
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Mine does the same thing with having to pump the brakes after sharp turns. I still have the stock steer-stops though. Did the having to pump the brakes go away when you ground them off, Mr. Griggs?
Are you talking about the grinding of the control arm or the steering stop?
And looking under my truck i see that my calipers fully turned have about an inch untill they hit so im thinking of just grinding down the stop about 3/4 of an inch.
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i think it was ricky (jrpro130) that had a picture off where you are supposed to grind the lower control arm.
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Everything is grinded thats supposed to be grinded i just need mor3e utrning radius from my stopper thing.
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Mine does the same thing with having to pump the brakes after sharp turns. I still have the stock steer-stops though. Did the having to pump the brakes go away when you ground them off, Mr. Griggs?
Yes, it did. Right now, because of the Fabtech design, the spindle hits my arm and stops and the brakes come close but don't touch. However, when they wear, they probably will touch some. I have neither stock stops nor the Fabtech ones right now.
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Yeah, that's what I like to hear. My kit didn't come with steering stops and my caliper hits on the steer stops right now. I did grind off the lip around the arm and that's perfect but the steer stops have almost cost me a wreck a couple of times I forgot about them and didn't have brakes immediately.
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wow i did not know about this problem with spindles and this is the first time i have heard about it. hmm having to repump your brakes when you turn that will make me think about that before i get ever get spindles
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why not fix the brake issue? i dont understand the issue. line to short?

your turning radius may change some but not very much.

what you guys said in this thread makes little sense.
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wow i did not know about this problem with spindles and this is the first time i have heard about it. hmm having to repump your brakes when you turn that will make me think about that before i get ever get spindles

the brake problem only exists if you dont install the spindle steering stops
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the brake issue only exists when you keep the factory steering stops. I had NO sterring stops on my ranger with fabtech spindles and i never had any kind of problem at all.
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Mine is fixed on the left but not on the right. The caliper hits the bump stop.
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why not fix the brake issue? i dont understand the issue. line to short?

your turning radius may change some but not very much.

what you guys said in this thread makes little sense.
If you put in the fabtech steering stops your radius will suck. I can't make a u-turn anymore without doing a 3 point turn.
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i had the same problem....get grindin. I notched the lower arm on pass and driver side about half an inch. You just have to sit the and grind and then turn your wheel and see how it fits together. Yea I had to make 3 point turns in parking lots...DRIVE THRUS, it sucked, but easily fixable
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i had the same problem....get grindin. I notched the lower arm on pass and driver side about half an inch. You just have to sit the and grind and then turn your wheel and see how it fits together. Yea I had to make 3 point turns in parking lots...DRIVE THRUS, it sucked, but easily fixable
What would happen if your grinding turns out to be more on one side than the other. Would that screw something up or would you not be able to turn anymore when 1 side hits and not the other?
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the brake issue only exists when you keep the factory steering stops. I had NO sterring stops on my ranger with fabtech spindles and i never had any kind of problem at all.
The brake issue is primarily with Doetsch spindles, but can be an issue when the front brakes are very worn and the caliper sticks out further.

I run no stops now and have no brake issues with the Fabtech either.
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