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if you're spending $2500 on leaf springs and $3000 on coils.....you didn't do your homework.

Ugh....have you ever done a SAS?

I have over 2500 in axles alone. Another 400 in Links for my 3 link. doing things the right way is expensive.
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i priced both leafs and coils. leafs were atleast 2500+ and coils 3000+

only difference with my leaf spring setup that i was looking at i would have had a D44 from the get go.

i dont know of any IFS "lift kit" that costs that much
nope, i don't either.
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wow...just terrible.



a Solid Front Axle basically allows for a more simple, more reliable, cheaper, and more capable offroad suspension. there countless ways to set it up, but offroad, each setup is lightyears better than IFS.


pictures may explain more......you can't do this with an IFS








if you're spending $2500 on leaf springs and $3000 on coils.....you didn't do your homework.
I think you are confused,just the coil springs by themselfs cost 89 dollers a peace,he is refering to the whole front suspension,trust me it cost 3000+,and does not matter who you are.
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if you're spending $2500 on leaf springs and $3000 on coils.....you didn't do your homework.

maybe you didnt understand, that is the whole cost parts axles, shocks, arms, etc...

not just the springs
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lol i guess there is a second page to this thread
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^ yup.
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yeah, i guess i misunderstood. i read this:

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i priced both leafs and coils. leafs were atleast 2500+ and coils 3000+
and thought that's what you were talking about. so yeah, for the whole conversion i can definitely see that being the costs. now we're on the same page.
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pays to play..

so go big or go home!!
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i think that red ranger is f*cking sweet for the street. Only problem with it is those ***** axles hes got under with with that setup. Im hoping mine doesnt look as retarded though. We shall find out.
I think that truck is for sale on ebay right now.
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holy multi repost ebay link!


anyway.....what I ment was cheaper to maintain. Look at the capabilities of a SAS compaired to an IFS system. Price 'em out, look at what they can take, what they can do, make a systematical equasion...biff bam boom bizzle pop! SAS baby. Dollar for dollar........which do you think is better?

I'm not talking about road warriers or pavement pounders.....why sas them pavement pounders?
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just buy a 85 toyota 4x4 and beat the **** outta it ha theres your 2500bux and you get a whole truck and it already has a solid front axle !!!
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a Solid Front Axle basically allows for a more simple, more reliable, cheaper, and more capable offroad suspension. there countless ways to set it up, but offroad, each setup is lightyears better than IFS.


pictures may explain more......you can't do this with an IFS




sureeee u can
...the next frame just shows the truck on its side/roof :)


im still newish to it too, ishhh

can i do the sas with a 44 or 60, and still keep it reasonable on 35s? if i do it i wont keep it on the street, but i dont want it too tall for rock crawling and what not
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A solid axle swap can be done with whatever axle you want. I am putting fullsize axles underneath my suzuki samurai! If you are going with only 35s then a D44 will be more than enough for your tires. A D30 might work if you get the right gears, don't lock it, and are careful with the gas, but I would go straight for the D44.

The best formula for rock crawling is low and wide... so if you go with full-size axles, you can cut/remove your fenders for extra clearance and get by with very minimal lift if that's what you want to do!
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"Dont SAS me!" thats a good application
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SAS can go one of two ways.. North or South... North meaning for the good and South meaning to the bad. Alot of guys just jump right into it some of the times and think they know what their doing and totally screw up their nice truck. This can be avoided by the proper research and knowing exactly what you really " NEED ". You can do it for either show, or you can do it for a full on hardcore offroader, the choice is totally up to you. Most of the applications that i know of ( dont bash me guys but most of the guys i know are runnin the ZR2's with 4-link Coil-over and leaf spring setups with 37-42" tires ). Be prepared to spend some cash.... as you can easily wrap up about $7000-8000 dollars ina setup depending on exactly what all you use and how big you go. ... Ideal axles for the SAS setups are D60's up front and 12-14 Bolt rears, thats for the true big dawg offroader....you can get by witha Dana 30 up front and ur stock rear but dont be looking to do anything major with them cause their just not capable of it, their not built strong enough... Most of the guys have already chimed in and told you everything...

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thats what im thinking ^^^

if i get around to a SAS, im going to run D60's or a 44 up front and a 9" or 60 out back..

i dont see y go through all the trouble and leave yourself with weak spots that could have been avoided easily
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damm nice red truck thats the kind i like!
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damm nice red truck thats the kind i like!
You like big ugly useless show trucks?
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You like big ugly useless show trucks?
nope i would invest and buy the trans and ****
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You like big ugly useless show trucks?

lmao, that is sig worthy.
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lmao, that is sig worthy.
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nope i would invest and buy the trans and ****
even with 4wd that doenst change. Try getting a front Driveshaft that will handle the angle.
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nope i would invest and buy the trans and ****
wouldnt matter because as soon as you put power to that axle with those tires..
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to bad its not a big *** ugly show truck.. lol
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