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Good mud & sand tire

It will be a wile before I need tires but I have been looking anyway. My question is what do you guys suggest for use on mud and sand? I drive in both often and right now I seem to get stuck easy in the mud but unstoppable in the sand. I dont want to loose much ability to drive in the sand because im the truck to ride with when in the sand, but I get stuck way to easy in the mud.

I know this is alot to ask for from a tire but thats what i need. I would also like to keep the price down.



Edit: The tires I have now are General Grabber AT2s. http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....l=Grabber+AT+2
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Hmm.. thats the problem there...

Its hard to find a tire thats both good in sand, AND good in mud.. because those are 2 completely different tread patterns your looking for.. As you linked, an All-Terrain is your best bet, but dont expect it to perform as good as just getting 2 different sets of tires Airing down is key for the sand though for sure.
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I know this is like a standard answer for me but an MT/R should be the best of both worlds IMO.
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yes, you are asking alot. all terrain tires are better in sand, and mud tires (duh) are better in mud. mud tires will tend to dig in the sand, and all terrains tend to get stuck in mud.

your best bet is probably a good all terrain and live with the lousy performance in mud, or get a mud terrain and be careful not to dig down to china!
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Or just get the tire that you go in the most.
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Baja T/As



if you've got the bank for em lol
actually i've got no idea but i would think they would be decent in mud

Maybe boggers since they're like a paddle tire and almost the best thing you can get for the mud
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pssst, MT/Rs.

Mt/rs are well regarded in sand and not too shabby in mud.

best on ROCKS! though...
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Psh

Boggers!! dont let him brain wash you into the MT/Rs the MTZs are obviously better haha


i dont really like MT/Rs on the rocks.. then again im comparing them to TSLs and Toyo MTs
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Boggers!! dont let him brain wash you into the MT/Rs the MTZs are obviously better haha


i dont really like MT/Rs on the rocks.. then again im comparing them to TSLs and Toyo MTs
MT/Rs are great on the rocks dood!!!

krawlers are better than all these though.
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well yea duh
they're krawlers

hell get some competition compound krawlers and you'll be set. that or maybe Creepy Crawlers?

lol back on the sand/mud convo
my vote is Boggers unless you want street manners



to tell you the truth i've only seen like 1 set of MT/Rs on the rocks and i dont think he really aired down.. i'm used to seeing Toyos, Iroks and TSLs
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hell get some competition compound krawlers and you'll be set.
(pssst, I do)
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I think that your best bet is going to be Toyo Open Country M/T's. I think its a nice flat tread pattern that will give you enough flotation on sand but with the right set of tread to do great in mud. Now if the mud isn't that bad I'd defiantly go with BFG A/T's. I've got them, and in the mud they do fine as long as its not super deep. But they clean fair enough to keep you going.
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How about one of these....



some dick cepek Radial F-C II's.. looks like they have a good balance between mud and sand style traction, better then the BFG A/T's

http://www.dickcepek.com/FC_Radial.html
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toyo open country mts!! I run them in both mud and sand and have had no real issues.
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pssst, MT/Rs.

Mt/rs are well regarded in sand and not too shabby in mud.

best on ROCKS! though...
Ive never seen a worse MT in the mud then the MTR
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Ive never seen a worse MT in the mud then the MTR
impossible! MT/Rs are not an MT. Ive done fine with them and have even seen tests that they have done very well in.

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I agree MTRs.
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Thanks for all the replies, I looked at all the suggested tires and here are reviews I found on the ones I liked most.

Goodyear mt/r: http://www.offroaders.com/tech/AT-MT...angler-MTR.htm
Toyo mt: http://www.offroaders.com/tech/AT-MT...en-Country.htm
MT Baja mtz: http://www.offroaders.com/tech/AT-MT...n-Baja-MTZ.htm

Sadly they are all to much for my to dish out for tires so after looking through all the tires on that size I found these.

Firestone destination mts: http://www.offroaders.com/tech/AT-MT...ination-MT.htm

What do you guys think of these? This site gives them a good review but I would like to know how they are on a ranger. They are still kinda higher then I would like, but we will see once it comes down to getting new tires.


Edit: Ohh and Dangerranger3 I cant see your pic. its just a photobucket notice saying its been moved or deleted.....
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fixed. Bogger owns all (unless you need lateral (sideways) stability.

EDIT: The tire you picked out looks like a good mud tire. I have my doubts of how well it will do in the sand. If it will see street time, I suggest the procomp MT as its siped and helps out a lot on wet roads.
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fixed. Bogger owns all (unless you need lateral (sideways) stability.
nope, no it doesnt...
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ok lately.. as in the past 2 days

my MTZs have impressed the hell out of me with their performance in dirt and mud.. i'll probably go to the dunes here in a few weeks once i lock the rear.

2wd...


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I dont want boggers because this truck is a daily driver and it one got a slight t-bar crank to level it out so I would be afraid of just digging down to the frame in the mud with a tire like that. Plus it cost way to much for that tire....

I would rather the tire be better in the mud, the more I think about it I realize that I seem to get in some type of mud at least once a week and sand once every other week.

I was also thinking the firestone may not do good in the sand. I know that the tire I have now is on that site and I think its under rated when it comes to sand performance, it only got 3 stars It seemed about right for mud though which they also gave 3 stars for.

99ranger, I couldnt get 2 feet in that wile in 2wd. Did you try that in 4wd yet, or is your 4wd broke? I would never take my truck in water that deep though, I stay out of water deeper then my hubs unless I have no choice but to drive through it. I do really like the mtzs but not the price tag, I am very hard on my tires so they dont last that long.

I may just suck it up and go with the firestone and be careful in the sand. I still have a wile to choose because im about to replace the balljoints on my truck and then the trans is going to die any minute so I have a feeling ill be on these tire until they are slicks....
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99ranger, I couldnt get 2 feet in that wile in 2wd. Did you try that in 4wd yet, or is your 4wd broke? I would never take my truck in water that deep though, I stay out of water deeper then my hubs unless I have no choice but to drive through it. I do really like the mtzs but not the price tag, I am very hard on my tires so they dont last that long.
that was all 2wd, towards the end in the second video i threw it in low and 2nd because my truck didn't have the ***** to spin the tires in 2wd.. my 4wd is still gone, i'm going to lock the rear and call it good unless it looks like the SAS is a long ways away, after seeing what the truck can do with "1wd" the past few days im sure i can run a number of trails in colorado locked in the rear


my friends can get me to do some stupid stuff.. atleast when the guy with the winch is there. i was NOT looking forward to wading through waist deep water at probably just abover freezing to hook up though.

the MTZs at that size may be more expensive, at the 35" level they were the same price as BFGs and damn near the MT/Rs.. the toyos were $50 more a piece

Firestone MTs seem to work pretty good on the 2 trucks i've seen running them, they seem like a softer compound though

oh and you said your not easy on your tires.. i'm right there with you, im missing a few chunks of the tires that spent most of the winter on the back.
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