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Help!!!! Please

ok Time for tires!!!! hahahahaha i'v got my mind made down to 2 tires and 1 rim...the tires are the

Superswamper SSR Radial


Superswamper TSL Radial


Now time for the rim Thanks to TheForce02 i fell in love with these rims when i saw them on his truck...

American Raceing Diamond Back

looks better on the truck heres Theforce's truck "hope he doesn't mind me useing this as a refrence


now my question is what tire should i go with....?? i'm leaning toward the SSR cause there is a guy in town same color ranger as mine black rims and all with tsl's....anyway does anybody have any experence with eaither of these tires if so whats you thoughts??? if not whats your thought on the choices i'v made?
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ive heard better about the ssr's.
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First of all, stay away from TSL's cuz pretty much everyone i know says they suck...well the tread part sticking out on the side is nice, but i dont think a 2wd is gonna want to get into situations where they needs the sides grabbing(not that it cant be done, just hope a winch is nearby). You might just want to pick some large size BF goodrich MT/Rs which look good because you'll save money so you can get 33's. Very nice rims though! I wish i had (the) money.

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the only thing about the MTr's is that everyone has them around here..... and i want a tire that looks like it's from hell thats how aggresive i want it to look
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if you want super agressive looking, maybe you should look at the thornbirds. of course you know these tires will be noisy, wear fast when used on streets, and deadly in rain.
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Dude I got some LTB's and they do quite well in the rain compared to my old 33 all-terrain's. Her are some pics of my LTB's.









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First of all, stay away from TSL's cuz pretty much everyone i know says they suck...well the tread part sticking out on the side is nice, but i dont think a 2wd is gonna want to get into situations where they needs the sides grabbing(not that it cant be done, just hope a winch is nearby). You might just want to pick some large size BF goodrich MT/Rs which look good because you'll save money so you can get 33's. Very nice rims though! I wish i had (the) money.

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Sorry, Aaron, I must disagree.

I have a 2WD and you need EVERY BIT OF TRACTION you can get! Sidebiters help. If you're going to offroad a 2WD like I do, get the most agressive tire you can stand to drive on the street (because that's what you're doing most of the time.
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honestly i don't care how it rides on the street...it ride ruff and i'v already come to understand that no lifted truck drives like a dream and i love the noise big tires make...don't know why but i need the most agressive tire i can get more than likely i'm going to get the SSR
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Maxxis new tire, bad a$$ looking

I personally would go with Cooper's new STT you will get ALOT MORE wear then Superswampers, supers are almost a waste of money for your application.

or you can go with the old one which I had for over a year and loved them.
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what everyone else said...u'll see the tread on the tires for a week....then its gone

of the two, i like the 2nd one, but in general, Thornbirds by far.....

Thornbird vs. Wrangler MT/R....hmm....for me, its close...
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so even tho it's a radial it's no good?
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radial just means that its designed to work better in rain....BUT desinged better to work in rain vs the regular tire.....

in off road tires, especially the high dollar ones like these, the lugs and tread pattern on them are huge and wide, designed for better mud/snow/whatever grip....the problem is, is that water also gets in these places, ergo, causeing hydroplaneing. if u notice, sports cars and etc, dont ever hydroplane all that much....if u look at a z rated tire, or something similar...the tread pattern is usuallty directional and close together. it sends all the water out fast, before it becomes a traction problem.

also, dual-direction tire tread will give u worse gas mileage, as the tires rotation patter isnt free flowing. but i dont think they make directional off road tires....hmmm...[ponders]

but since u're throwin on these things, 1) u've got $$$ to burn anyway, and 2)these are going to slow/de-power/make it consume more gas/louder/need to buy new ones in a month/etc your truck. i doubt gas is that big a deal with u.
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Someone tell me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure radials have nothing to do with rain. Radial is the direction of the ply? Bias is two diagonal layers and radials cost more because the sidewalls have ply layers goin through them.. That means potentially a rock couldn't rip apart your sidewalls. And yeah I guess you're right John, any extra stuff is better on a 2WD.. In the winter here I have some big Blizzaks(well whatever they're called for trucks) that get the job done. I have a friend that likes to offroad and we throw on tire chains and go in the snow.

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If I ever get the money to build an offroad truck I plan on going with Mickey Thompson's Baja Claw Radials. I love how they look and, according to all the reviews that I've read, they're a hell of a tire.

Here's a description of them from Jegs:
Polyester Ply/Steel belted, tread depth 21/32'' on 15'' and 19/32'' on 16''. Improved rolling resistance and uniform ride. Circumferential grooves for hydroplane resistance. Directional tread pattern with 23 degree lugs for superior grip and self-cleaning in mud and snow.




And Red_AK, I believe you're right. A radial tire is a type of tire that's constructed with the reinforcing belts sideways under the tread rather than lengthwise. This makes the tire more flexible which reduces rolling resistance to improve fuel economy.

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i'v thougth about the Claw hmmm back to the drawing board thanks guys..... this helps me out alot
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personally i would get a tire from a big name company, BFG, Bridgestone, Goodyear, etc. youll get a longer service life out of them, and the construction will be more reliable. plus, though these tires may be MT/Rs, they are designed to be safe on the road as well, which is very important. whereas interco's, claws, etc, are designed for offroad use only pretty much.
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hmm i don't know what i'ma do i'll probally end up going weith the claw or going up to dallas and looking at both tires adn see what ojne looks better on my truck
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Someone tell me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure radials have nothing to do with rain. Radial is the direction of the ply? Bias is two diagonal layers and radials cost more because the sidewalls have ply layers goin through them.. That means potentially a rock couldn't rip apart your sidewalls. And yeah I guess you're right John, any extra stuff is better on a 2WD.. In the winter here I have some big Blizzaks(well whatever they're called for trucks) that get the job done. I have a friend that likes to offroad and we throw on tire chains and go in the snow.

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You're right about radial vs. bias: radials came along to increase efficiency lost when the tire flexes. Bias ply tires make more heat, and have greater rolling resistance at higher speeds in particular. However, bias ply tires are like plywood: the "grain" crossing in different directions confers strength on the tire. Radials "go with the flow" more, at the expense of some strength. Bias tires can and do have MANY layers (more than two for sure) as you get into larger and stronger tires.

As far as the 2WD tire issue: you 4WD guys are spoiled, and I'm jealous! Those of us who began wheeling AFTER we had bought a 2WD truck already (never intending to offroad, but ending up doing it anyway) are stuck with what we've got until we can afford to do better. We've learned (and are learning) to make the most of what we've got, lol!
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so what would give me the most agressive looks but still let me get alot of miles.....out of these 3 what would u pick......micky "Claws" "TSL's" Or "SSR's" what one would you chose
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None of your choices is going to be particularly good on wet roads.

I'm partial to the M/T Claws myself.

But I think you're going to regret not having a tire with siping on it for street use. From that standpoint, the SSR might be a bit better choice.
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i agree....ssr's of the three

a guy at my workplace has the claws oh his f-150, and he says they're awesome offroad, but if its raining, and he even taps the gas on asphault, he's spinning the tires....
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