New MT/R with Kevlar
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#29
i dont like ****ty looking tires. also why i dont like those "flame" tires either its just stupid or the Dick cepek bone tires its like really now
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Goodyear has just released it's brand new version of the Wrangler MT/R(maximum traction reinforced)for 2009. The tire will be available in March in 30 different sizes. There are some new larger sizes as well including a 38x14.50R17 and a 42x14.50R17. I have been somewhat of a fan of the MT/R for a while. My last two sets have been the MT/R in large part because of the availability and price, but also because they have a good reputation and I have always had good luck with them(and also, because they do a good job of replacing them when stuff goes wrong). The most obvious difference here is in the tread pattern.
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#34
WTF?
What happened to just plain terrain specific tread designs meant to be better for what terrain the tire was built for? Now they are trying to make them more attractive to my generation of nitwits?
......ON TIRES?!?!?!
#37
They are slowly growing on me.. we were at camp yesterday and i was joking about taking a guys jeep cause the keys were still in it.. and he just said "i dont care, take it" i was like, "seriously?" and he said, "yea, go wheelin i don't care.." Soooo i took it.. and went wheelin for about 2 hours those KM2s took everything i gave it, but i didn't really run anything hard, they don't compare to the 42" IROKS on the buggy we were running with but we kept up.
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Resurrecting an old post, I know. But I thought I'd give a little real world review of these new MT/R with Kevlar.
I had a set of LT285/75/R18 (35.1 x 11.2") mounted on my '09 F250, which is my daily driver. I do quite a few miles a year- about 2200 per month. Highway traction, wear, and quality are important to me. Likewise, I take my truck 4 wheeling through pastures and on the beach, so off road traction is important too. Here's how they measure up for me.
Noise- Similar to any other mainstream mud terrain such as the BF Goodrich Radial Mud Terrain. They hum a little around 35-50mph. But overall, quiet for an off road tire. They are definitely quieter than my buddy's F250 on 35x12.5R18 Nitto Mud Grapplers.
Ride- Again, similar to other mud terrains. You can feel the lugs hitting the ground when driving slowly around town, such as pulling up to a stop light. There are slightly stiffer than the factory Continental Conti-Trac TR tires from the factory. Make no doubt about it; these tires are rated to carry some weight in the 10ply. "E" rating. The LT285/75/R18 is rated to carry a whopping 4,085lbs each at 80psi. For reference, the factory tires are rated to carry 3,638lbs at 80psi. Currently, I'm running the MT/Rs with 60psi and could safely go lower when unloaded but the Tire Pressure Monitoring System will signal fault below the 60psi mark.
Wet Road Traction- Excellent. These tires are the best wet road tires I have ever owned. Better than the factory street (!) tires, better than the BF Goodrich Mud Terrain and the Mud Terrain KM (referencing the KM2s predecessor), and even better than the BF Goodrich Radial All Terrain series on wet roads. In my opinion, they're that good in the rain. Shocking for an M/T tire.
Sand- They tend to dig in pretty quick in loose sand. I think this is more the product of 3.5 tons of Ford Super Duty sitting on top of tires aired up to 60psi. 4Low and 2nd gear in the ZF6 generally keeps things moving in sandy conditions. A long stretch of deep sugar sand would probably mean turn around for me.
Mud- Very respectable. The tires self clean well. The outer tread has deep lugs and will shed mud without too much throttle. The center band will pack up in clay based mud, but the outer grips stay clean. In my experience, these tires seem to provide better forward grip than when trying to back up even though Goodyear insists they are not directional. They are asymmetrical but not directional. Still, they do a good job of throwing mud around.
Price- Let's face it. 18" tires are big money. According to Discount Tire, here's the prices on several comparable 35" mud tires for an 18" rim.
Goodyear MT/R: $355
BF Goodrich KM2: $349
Nitto Mud Grappler: $299
The Goodyear’s are the most expensive of the group. The choice for me was narrowed in that the 35" KM2 was not an "E" rated tire, so it was out. The Mud Grappler is not long wearing enough for my mileage needs. The Toyo Open Country M/T was not available in my area in a 35" size, so I can't comment on its price point. Overall, the Goodyear Wrangler has a premium price, particularly in the 18" rim flavor.
I think it would be interesting to hear reviews from guys running these tires on lighter rigs. The little bit I've read about them is that they do exceptionally well on the rocks, but can't personally comment on that aspect. That wouldn't be pretty
Well, that's my review for anyone who's interested.
I had a set of LT285/75/R18 (35.1 x 11.2") mounted on my '09 F250, which is my daily driver. I do quite a few miles a year- about 2200 per month. Highway traction, wear, and quality are important to me. Likewise, I take my truck 4 wheeling through pastures and on the beach, so off road traction is important too. Here's how they measure up for me.
Noise- Similar to any other mainstream mud terrain such as the BF Goodrich Radial Mud Terrain. They hum a little around 35-50mph. But overall, quiet for an off road tire. They are definitely quieter than my buddy's F250 on 35x12.5R18 Nitto Mud Grapplers.
Ride- Again, similar to other mud terrains. You can feel the lugs hitting the ground when driving slowly around town, such as pulling up to a stop light. There are slightly stiffer than the factory Continental Conti-Trac TR tires from the factory. Make no doubt about it; these tires are rated to carry some weight in the 10ply. "E" rating. The LT285/75/R18 is rated to carry a whopping 4,085lbs each at 80psi. For reference, the factory tires are rated to carry 3,638lbs at 80psi. Currently, I'm running the MT/Rs with 60psi and could safely go lower when unloaded but the Tire Pressure Monitoring System will signal fault below the 60psi mark.
Wet Road Traction- Excellent. These tires are the best wet road tires I have ever owned. Better than the factory street (!) tires, better than the BF Goodrich Mud Terrain and the Mud Terrain KM (referencing the KM2s predecessor), and even better than the BF Goodrich Radial All Terrain series on wet roads. In my opinion, they're that good in the rain. Shocking for an M/T tire.
Sand- They tend to dig in pretty quick in loose sand. I think this is more the product of 3.5 tons of Ford Super Duty sitting on top of tires aired up to 60psi. 4Low and 2nd gear in the ZF6 generally keeps things moving in sandy conditions. A long stretch of deep sugar sand would probably mean turn around for me.
Mud- Very respectable. The tires self clean well. The outer tread has deep lugs and will shed mud without too much throttle. The center band will pack up in clay based mud, but the outer grips stay clean. In my experience, these tires seem to provide better forward grip than when trying to back up even though Goodyear insists they are not directional. They are asymmetrical but not directional. Still, they do a good job of throwing mud around.
Price- Let's face it. 18" tires are big money. According to Discount Tire, here's the prices on several comparable 35" mud tires for an 18" rim.
Goodyear MT/R: $355
BF Goodrich KM2: $349
Nitto Mud Grappler: $299
The Goodyear’s are the most expensive of the group. The choice for me was narrowed in that the 35" KM2 was not an "E" rated tire, so it was out. The Mud Grappler is not long wearing enough for my mileage needs. The Toyo Open Country M/T was not available in my area in a 35" size, so I can't comment on its price point. Overall, the Goodyear Wrangler has a premium price, particularly in the 18" rim flavor.
I think it would be interesting to hear reviews from guys running these tires on lighter rigs. The little bit I've read about them is that they do exceptionally well on the rocks, but can't personally comment on that aspect. That wouldn't be pretty
Well, that's my review for anyone who's interested.
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stacey david did a review of these tires on the show GEARZ if my memory is correct. i believe the tires were on a stock wrangler?? from what i remember he loved the tires. i think he was saying they dig in sand but are pretty good in every other type of terrain. real nice in the mud and excellent on road. im trying to find the video clip right now
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