Getting Heater Ready For Winter!!!
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Getting Heater Ready For Winter!!!
Ok guys. I am a big fan of the vast amounts of knowledge attainable through this sites search option. And honestly, that is the MAIN, if not ONLY reason I joined this site. It is awesome. I have been able to answer many questions, without even asking!
But I am having a little trouble once again, and this is something I feel I should ask about.
So here it goes.
Synopsis:
98 Ford Ranger
2.5 Litre
Manual 4w/Od
Air
Pwrsteering
ABS
Problem::::
Ok so recently I replaced the Thermostat because the new truck I purchased(98 ranger) was running cool. After replacing thermostat 2 times(finally went with the motor craft part:p
It is now reaching proper opperating temps.
But I still have a problem.
No heat.
Bummer.
First after testing, I replaced the heater control valve located on the heater hoses under the hood, with no luck. Still no heat.
While I had the hoses detached from the heater control valve, i decided to check the heater core flow and this what I got.
Two hoses going into firewall side by side. I filled the hose up on the left and applied pressure, with no results. The water stayed in the hose.
I tried doing on the right hose, and it sounded like it was circulating back to the radiator.
Does this sound like this is bad?
Also,
On the switches inside. I have noticed that no matter what the setting(except off) the ac compressor is still running.
Thanks and god bless.
But I am having a little trouble once again, and this is something I feel I should ask about.
So here it goes.
Synopsis:
98 Ford Ranger
2.5 Litre
Manual 4w/Od
Air
Pwrsteering
ABS
Problem::::
Ok so recently I replaced the Thermostat because the new truck I purchased(98 ranger) was running cool. After replacing thermostat 2 times(finally went with the motor craft part:p
It is now reaching proper opperating temps.
But I still have a problem.
No heat.
Bummer.
First after testing, I replaced the heater control valve located on the heater hoses under the hood, with no luck. Still no heat.
While I had the hoses detached from the heater control valve, i decided to check the heater core flow and this what I got.
Two hoses going into firewall side by side. I filled the hose up on the left and applied pressure, with no results. The water stayed in the hose.
I tried doing on the right hose, and it sounded like it was circulating back to the radiator.
Does this sound like this is bad?
Also,
On the switches inside. I have noticed that no matter what the setting(except off) the ac compressor is still running.
Thanks and god bless.
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A quick and easy test of the heater core can be done as follows:
1. Ensure the cooling system is full.
2. With the hood open start the engine and allow to idle.
3. Grab hold of each heater hoses and note how warm they feel.
4. Keep repeating as engine comes up to operating temperature.
At some point you should start to feel the hoses getting warm to touch. One may start slightly before the other as coolant circulates through the core. However, there shouldn’t be a significant delay. A lengthy delay would be indicative of a partly obstructed core or malfunctioning water valve. If only one hose gets warm or slightly hot to the touch at full operating temperature then suspect a completely obstructed core or water valve stuck in the closed position.
1. Ensure the cooling system is full.
2. With the hood open start the engine and allow to idle.
3. Grab hold of each heater hoses and note how warm they feel.
4. Keep repeating as engine comes up to operating temperature.
At some point you should start to feel the hoses getting warm to touch. One may start slightly before the other as coolant circulates through the core. However, there shouldn’t be a significant delay. A lengthy delay would be indicative of a partly obstructed core or malfunctioning water valve. If only one hose gets warm or slightly hot to the touch at full operating temperature then suspect a completely obstructed core or water valve stuck in the closed position.
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Basically what he said ^^^ but sounds like the heater core is plugged and correction on the ac pump running it will run on defrost and floor so that is every position but off and The head vents and it runs to remove the moisture in the air coming into the cab so your windows don't fog up. it even runs with the heater on. you could also have a blend air door problem in your vent system i would check that too
Last edited by Hanks Rangers; 08-06-2009 at 12:16 AM.
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A quick and easy test of the heater core can be done as follows:
1. Ensure the cooling system is full.
2. With the hood open start the engine and allow to idle.
3. Grab hold of each heater hoses and note how warm they feel.
4. Keep repeating as engine comes up to operating temperature.
At some point you should start to feel the hoses getting warm to touch. One may start slightly before the other as coolant circulates through the core. However, there shouldn’t be a significant delay. A lengthy delay would be indicative of a partly obstructed core or malfunctioning water valve. If only one hose gets warm or slightly hot to the touch at full operating temperature then suspect a completely obstructed core or water valve stuck in the closed position.
1. Ensure the cooling system is full.
2. With the hood open start the engine and allow to idle.
3. Grab hold of each heater hoses and note how warm they feel.
4. Keep repeating as engine comes up to operating temperature.
At some point you should start to feel the hoses getting warm to touch. One may start slightly before the other as coolant circulates through the core. However, there shouldn’t be a significant delay. A lengthy delay would be indicative of a partly obstructed core or malfunctioning water valve. If only one hose gets warm or slightly hot to the touch at full operating temperature then suspect a completely obstructed core or water valve stuck in the closed position.
Good resources. This will be filed in my mind permanently.
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Basically what he said ^^^ but sounds like the heater core is plugged and correction on the ac pump running it will run on defrost and floor so that is every position but off and The head vents and it runs to remove the moisture in the air coming into the cab so your windows don't fog up. it even runs with the heater on. you could also have a blend air door problem in your vent system i would check that too
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A quick and easy test of the heater core can be done as follows:
1. Ensure the cooling system is full.
2. With the hood open start the engine and allow to idle.
3. Grab hold of each heater hoses and note how warm they feel.
4. Keep repeating as engine comes up to operating temperature.
1. Ensure the cooling system is full.
2. With the hood open start the engine and allow to idle.
3. Grab hold of each heater hoses and note how warm they feel.
4. Keep repeating as engine comes up to operating temperature.
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Ok guys first I tested with the procedure above. Before the Heater control valve in the hoses to the heater core...HOT! But i figure it was due to heat off of exhaust manifolds. Closer to the firewall, was not hot at all.
I took off the heater control valve, and once again tried to force both air, and water pressure through both hoses...and nothing...nothing at all.
I took off the heater control valve, and once again tried to force both air, and water pressure through both hoses...and nothing...nothing at all.
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Im just plumb dern confused?
Should I go ahead and purchase my blend door, and heater core, and go ahead and schedule a day off to fix, or what? Is it possible that the heater control valve is upside down? the part to it that the vacum line connects to is pointing downward.
Should I go ahead and purchase my blend door, and heater core, and go ahead and schedule a day off to fix, or what? Is it possible that the heater control valve is upside down? the part to it that the vacum line connects to is pointing downward.
i'd do that before you try replacing the blend door. its easier to do the core first instead of tearing the whole dash out.
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its been about a year since i've done a core in a 98+.. but if i'm thinking right you shouldnt have to. remove the lower trim pieces in the pass side floorboard, peel the carpet back, remove glovebox door/compartment, pull out black plastic trim pieces/protectors that cover the core and then disconnect the hoses under the hood and yank out.
i dont think much changed around with the core and stuff between those 2 generations. should be an hour and a half job tops. just remember to "burp the system after you hook all the hoses and everything back up.
"burp" meaning while the truck is runnin leave the radiator cap off and let all the air pockets circulate out through the filler neck. then re-fill as necissary after until air bubbles stop coming out.
i dont think much changed around with the core and stuff between those 2 generations. should be an hour and a half job tops. just remember to "burp the system after you hook all the hoses and everything back up.
"burp" meaning while the truck is runnin leave the radiator cap off and let all the air pockets circulate out through the filler neck. then re-fill as necissary after until air bubbles stop coming out.
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