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A Grandam GT has 200 hp.
It's more like 175hp (with the ram-air package; otherwise its 170hp).. you're thinkin of the 3.8L, Grand Am's got the 3.4L. My friend has an '06 grand am GT and it's a POS, and not very quick IMO(and that was compared to my ranger when I had it). I've taken manual TC's in my automatic GTI, just pass them right up and get in front of em, easy as pie I think my ranger couldve kept up with one though

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Finally someone is starting to stick up for the little engine that could...
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haha this thread was fun
but yaeh.. i think mine could take a 4 for what its worth
i raced this.. uhh the smaller version of a titan.. idk what those have in em but we were neck and neck untill we hit 75 and then he pulled away slowly
but yeha the drifting around corners is fun ahah
annddd taking right turns at 35... hahaha
funn times!
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annddd taking right turns at 35... hahaha
funn times!
lmao the last time i did that in my truck it skidded straight towards the curb on the other side!
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haha this thread was fun
i raced this.. uhh the smaller version of a titan.. idk what those have in em but we were neck and neck untill we hit 75 and then he pulled away slowly
but yeha the drifting around corners is fun ahah
annddd taking right turns at 35... hahaha
funn times!
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hell i pulled on Evans truck with my 4.0L OHV splash auto and his is a 2001 4.0L auto...

then agian i was lowered on bullitt wheels and he is lifted on 33's LOL still beat him tho... made me happy
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I've raced a Chevy S-10 Blazer 5 speed 4.3L 2 door, he had one other person in his truck and off the line I pulled on him until we hit 4th gear and then he flew by me. The 3.0L doesn't have the low end but the OHV 4.0L doesn't have the top end like the 3.0L does and thats where your going to be racing. So I think a 4.0L would be quicker but it wouldn't be such a huge difference. I'd love to see a video of a race between the two.
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i will race a 4.0 ... i use to have a 2001 reg cab 2wd 4.0 SOHC ... i totalled it out .
i now have a exact same truck but with a 3.0l manual .
i can easily walk on my old 4.0
Mr. Bobby Johnson from GBO. Welcome to R-F man. Adding to the thread, I'd say it's completely possible. My 3.0 when I was lowered kicked you back in your seat more than my old Chevy with the 350 in it. Granted it needed new plug wires, plugs, and air filter but that could have been the case. The 3.0's are pretty quick if you got mods and you're lowered. It's all weight/power ratio and wind resistance.
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There's no replacement for displacement as they say.

Don't get too uppity -- a stock 4.0 SOHC with a manual will eat you up, supercab or not.
Even with a 50hit on the laughing gas, that 3.0 would'nt have a chance. Ask Coy , Derrek and everyone else that was there in Texas that day
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3.0, 4.0 eh, really tired of the v-6, doesnt compare to a fullsize truck with a v-8 which i want badly. whether it be chevy or ford.
.. Don't speak too quickly. Theres quite a few F150 drivers in this town that hate me.. Their cash sure buys a lot of Mountian Dew and Pizza..

Power to weight ratio, traction and TORQUE, NOT ' Horsepower ' are what win races.

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Power to weight ratio, traction and TORQUE, NOT ' Horsepower ' are what win races.
you guesster chester!

you guys who think your 3.0 can beat a 4.0 are rediculous.......maybe if the person driving the 4.0 is completely incompitant as a driver......

i will still lay cash on the line for anyone with a 3.0 to come race my 4.0........even with my 35's and 4.56's i could still beat you........
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My moms got a 2000 Grand am GT its not that much faster than my truck.. I meen it will kick u back some but its nothing to brag about. Only a 3.4 same engine in the lumina...
Yeah they aren't that fast... But I don't really think a stock 5.0 is that fast. But fast is relative I guess.
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i meen iv rode in 4.0 rangers and there not that great. Nothing just real impressive i dont see why u think the 3.0 is just that much slower. U must not have rode in a modded 3.0 thats running good. Ur sticking up for something that really isnt much better. My freinds 4.3 vortec in his S-10 is real slow and its a 5 spd ex cab 2wd. I know the 4.3 has more hp than the 4.0 what is makeing is so slow. Different engines make more power at certain rpm than others the 4.0 seems like more a pulling motor to me. same with the 4.3 they have alot of torque but it just dont seem to last long.
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with a heavily modified 3.0, you would be lucky to equal the HP/TQ #'s that a stock 4.0 is making........it has been said many times........truck for truck, a stock 4.0 vs. a modified 3.0; the 3.0 will get beat each time......with equal drivers behind the wheel....
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with a heavily modified 3.0, you would be lucky to equal the HP/TQ #'s that a stock 4.0 is making........it has been said many times........truck for truck, a stock 4.0 vs. a modified 3.0; the 3.0 will get beat each time......with equal drivers behind the wheel....
I would lay down cash if i still had my truck, i'd stomp yours.. as a reference, I beat an '05 camry V6 (215hp), can your hugely lifted truck do that? Although I had a manual, I dont think your 4.0L OHV/automatic is that peppy.. ive driven them, and stock 4.0L SOHC/automatics, NOT that impressive. Hell even the stock 3.0L/autos suck, the manual version has a way different feel to it.
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I would lay down cash if i still had my truck, i'd stomp yours.. as a reference, I beat an '05 camry V6 (215hp), can your hugely lifted truck do that? Although I had a manual, I dont think your 4.0L OHV/automatic is that peppy.. ive driven them, and stock 4.0L SOHC/automatics, NOT that impressive. Hell even the stock 3.0L/autos suck, the manual version has a way different feel to it.
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truck for truck, a stock 4.0 vs. a modified 3.0
i said TRUCK FOR TRUCK.....that means the same truck in a 4.0 vs. the same truck with a modified 3.0.....the 3.0 would get beat....IF the drivers were compareable....

HP matters, but NOT near as much as torque in a straight line drag race.....a modified 3.0 wouldn't be close in TQ #'s of a 4.0.....
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dude, a 4.0L OHV- YES, ive stomped one, and it was JUST like mine (a red 2000, but it was an automatic) You talk like that motor is a supercar engine lmao- who cares, they'd both get stomped now- with my GTI
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it was JUST like mine (a red 2000, but it was an automatic)
if the 1 you raced was an auto and yours a manual, then they were not the same truck.......and were both drivers of equal skills?

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who cares, they'd both get stomped now- with my GTI
yes, the GTI will beat both...
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i said TRUCK FOR TRUCK.....that means the same truck in a 4.0 vs. the same truck with a modified 3.0.....the 3.0 would get beat....IF the drivers were compareable....

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of course the 4.0 would win. the problem is the 3.0 is a smaller engine and thus has the option of going into a smaller truck. I don't understand disqualifying that setup for the argument of calling 3.0's slow. Put a 4.6 3 valve ford engine in a dump truck and its not gonna be fast is it? Same applies to a 3.0 in an extended cab.

A local single cab 3.0 with roller rockers, K&N, underdog pulleys, manual tranny, and l/s rear beats my extended cab sohc with 33" tires K&N, pulleys, and l/s rear.

Another one with traction bars and home made intake is a little slower than the other 3.0 but his times dictate a drivers race with me.

Looking at the slips, we had darn near equal 60' times which is the best guide for testing a drivers ability.

I can only go by what I've witnessed. The 3.0 in a single cab manual truck is not greatly lacking acceleration in comparison to other trucks.
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graniteguy "defender of the 3.0, driver of a 4.0". lol.

I was conditioned on them being slow based on what I read and my own track times with a old worn out 3.0 extended cab automatic one wheeler. Watching them scoot down the track opened my eyes. It gave them some respect.
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graniteguy "defender of the 3.0, driver of a 4.0". lol.

You should seriously make that into a t-shirt. With an RF logo on it. lol
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you guesster chester!

you guys who think your 3.0 can beat a 4.0 are rediculous.......maybe if the person driving the 4.0 is completely incompitant as a driver......

i will still lay cash on the line for anyone with a 3.0 to come race my 4.0........even with my 35's and 4.56's i could still beat you........
haha sounds like a plan

5k, we'll race in 3 months

deal?
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Buy a 331 with high compression and go beat a few cobra's then ill be happy :)



its my dream anyway :(
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if the 1 you raced was an auto and yours a manual, then they were not the same truck.......and were both drivers of equal skills?


yes, the GTI will beat both...
dude, you still dont get it- I'M TALKING ABOUT YOUR HUGE 4x4 TRUCK w/ it's 4.0L OVERHEAD VALVE engine, NOT an SOHC. Yes they were comparable, my manual 3.0L (the motor dubbed by you "beatable by ALL 4.0L's") and the other guys automatic 4.0L OHV. I got him off the line and were neck to neck for a while- MANUALS ARE ONLY GOOD ON TAKE OFFS. (period). So yes, they were comparable. Thank you.

I would laugh just to see your monster truck with the 160hp/225tq OHV 4.0L and automatic get stomped (and I mean STOMPED) by the "itty bitty 3.slow".

A lifted truck is always gonna be slower than a comparable truck w/o a lift, so yours would be slower than the one I raced- meaning I wouldve beaten you

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I beat a stock Mazda speed Protogay with my blue 01 4.0 SOHC automatic ranger with stock everything. And it was a friend of mines car that I know knows how to drive. He was embarrassed as hell. Still has poor excuses. This was with a Huge ugly topper and all four of my cadillac rims and tires in the rear.

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