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Pretty much the only way you can beat the 4.0's is with forced induction. Not saying you CAN'T do with with N/A engine.. but it would require a lot of internal work. Throw your truck on the dyno and it'll seem a lot less peppy. I had almost every bolt on, aside from an Efan. This includes.. UD pulley, headers, intake, exhaust, Xcal2, ROLLER ROCKERS.. and was disappointed by the numbers on the dyno. Then of course we bolted on the whipple and saw some real numbers. :)
That's why I'm doing a couple little things and putting the cash (that would be wasted on bolt-ons) into an EE kit.

*edit BTW bring your truck over my way and I'll smoke you on 33's =]

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It was a 02 4.0 supercab auto trans. Dont see how u could not know how to drive a automatic lol. Just push it to the floor.
Yes except for one little detail: if he doesn't do pedal-to-the-metal all the time, his transmission shift schedule will tend to shift a bit earlier and softer than if he really, really kicks it all the time.

I didn't say the other guy didn't know HOW to drive it -- I merely commented on it being a specific driver: if he doesn't push it a lot his truck will be slower than if he does due to adaptive stuff in the transmission controls.
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did the f-150 have the 4.2L engine? or the 4.6 or the 5.0 or what.
My F-150 had the 5.4 & its best time was 16.5 in the quarter but that was @ 3000 feet above sea level.

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That seems unlikely though -- you think you're going to get more torque out of a design which wastes more in the valve train and has lower displacement? We're talking v6 to v6 here, not i6 to v6...
It doesnt matter- look at what GM is doing, still using proven OHV technology on their V8's and getting more power than ford and with some even getting better fuel economy- and ford is stuck on SOHC V8's and DOHC V8's that have been inferior to the Chevy LS series and such of the 90's and on. BTW I-6's are torque monsters- can anybody say ford 300 I-6..? they arent like most 4 bangers that make more HP than torque- hell even my 1.8L turbo I-4 makes 180hp but 174 lb-ft torque and it's a 20 valve DOHC engine.

I'm just saying that OHV engines will typically make more torque vs horsepower than an SOHC or DOHC design.

Oh and I whooped up on full sizes when I had my ranger (pullies/hurst/tuner/borla/MAC)- a big truck is just that- a heavy truck compared to the ranger.. power : weight ratio people, think about it.
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Id love to race a 3.0 with a EE on it! Would be awesome to hear it at WOT.... Although I have never been beatin by a 4.0 yet, auto or manual. Havent raced any highly modified (ie ones that appear that someone has been in the engine)... Doesnt mean I wont get beat by one some day, but as for now, I have yet to race a truck a loose of any sort. Doesnt mean I wont see a lightning,saleen, or some 7.3 with some mods to teach me otherwise...
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the 4.0 has almost 100 more stock horsepower than a 3.0.....
I dont know where you are getting your numbers from, but a 04+ 3.0 has 148hp and the 4.0sohc from 01+ has 207 do the math and thats 59 more hp far from "100 more stock horsepower"
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Yeah, well my Ranger has a eleventy billion more hp than a 3.0. Measure that difference
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I was gonna say what about weight... if you were in a single cab 3.0 2wd vs. a 4wd ext cab 4.0... well... you would have a chance... I think
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I was gonna say what about weight... if you were in a single cab 3.0 2wd vs. a 4wd ext cab 4.0... well... you would have a chance... I think
A manual 3.0 single cab can take a 4.0 4wd ext cab. I never raced side by side but I've seen two at the track basically running a 16 flat compared to my 16.3 in the 4.0.

So much of it is setup. All the hoopla with HP is one thing, traction is another. Think about this. My s-10 will run 60' in 2 seconds flat (hopefully soon to be 1.8 sec). the average ranger (or s-10)will be around 2.4 seconds. 4/10's of a second is HUGE. Traction lock, traction bars, and some good rear tires should be on the top list of mods.
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....and some headers!

Got those btw!
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A manual 3.0 single cab can take a 4.0 4wd ext cab. I never raced side by side but I've seen two at the track basically running a 16 flat compared to my 16.3 in the 4.0.

So much of it is setup. All the hoopla with HP is one thing, traction is another. Think about this. My s-10 will run 60' in 2 seconds flat (hopefully soon to be 1.8 sec). the average ranger (or s-10)will be around 2.4 seconds. 4/10's of a second is HUGE. Traction lock, traction bars, and some good rear tires should be on the top list of mods.
Good info there^^ some good ladder traction bars help NICELY with take offs.. i loved them when i had my ranger.. the reg cab 3.0L/manuals are pretty peppy.. then doing the usual bolt-ons would really make it a 3.go
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Ill just have to get a video of it sometime.. Im gunna bet the people thinking the 4.0 is so great owns one. lol i meen why should i worry bout how good the 4.0 is when i just need to be working on mine. My truck isnt just slow. a grand am gt only beat me by 1 1/2 cars the other night. That was before i added the pullies so who knows..
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i highly doubt a 2000 3.0 can win a race against a 4.0 sohc. UNLESS the other driver really wasn't trying, or maybe his truck wasn't running good. all i know is that my 4.0 sohc (auto) would beat any 3.0 that didn't have a supercharger. end of comment.
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Ill just have to get a video of it sometime.. Im gunna bet the people thinking the 4.0 is so great owns one. lol i meen why should i worry bout how good the 4.0 is when i just need to be working on mine. My truck isnt just slow. a grand am gt only beat me by 1 1/2 cars the other night. That was before i added the pullies so who knows..
Red Bay, ALA, where exactly is that? GrandAM GT only beat you by 1 1/2? Then he/she wasn't playing, my wife had a 95 GrandAM GT and them things are quick. However I have read your entire thread and I ain't pulling the BS flag yet but I don't believe ya without seeing it
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I dunno what else to tell ya beside just get in my truck and drive it.. I figure if someone has worn plugs and wires. dirty air filter. dont take care if it like i do. IV seen people not change there oil for 20,000 miles just becasue no one has told them what to do about cars. Im just saying i did beat him. Maybe because his truck wasnt as good running shape as mine i dunno..
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My moms got a 2000 Grand am GT its not that much faster than my truck.. I meen it will kick u back some but its nothing to brag about. Only a 3.4 same engine in the lumina...
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why worry about it, were all ford guys, were suppose to diss others trucks like S-10s and such, not rangers... point is... you want a race vehicle? buy a sports car...durr
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I can't beat a Scion tC off the line with my 3.0 so I'm not one to brag.
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A Grandam GT has 200 hp, they are ok nothing great 15.9 in a 1/4mile. A GTP Grand prix is pretty quick but still with only 240hp they are quite heavy and still not a sports car they only run 15 flat.
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my fiances 99 grand ma gt has 130k on it, and will pull away from me anytime anywhere but snow. a 15.9 is not fast. i have not even had my truck more than 85mph cause i dont need to prove anything at all. i have no clue what my truck runs in a quarter but id be confident its in the 17s. if i wanted a fast truck, it would have to be diesel of have a belt driven throttle body
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why worry about it, were all ford guys, were suppose to diss others trucks like S-10s and such, not rangers... point is... you want a race vehicle? buy a sports car...durr
Yea thats what im saying.... Dad bought this peice of **** 89 SHO for 700 dollars got it home thinking he had a regular taurus so i bought it from him lol.. Gave it a good tune up and Beat one of those gtps by a couple cars.. The bad thing is the guy i raced is the one that sold it to my dad. They was pissed for bragging bout this gtp they had and the car that was sitting under the tree for 2 years is beating there *** lol..It was great till dad ran it hot on day and ruined the heads..
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i will race a 4.0 ... i use to have a 2001 reg cab 2wd 4.0 SOHC ... i totalled it out .
i now have a exact same truck but with a 3.0l manual .
i can easily walk on my old 4.0
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I was going like 10 mph the other day around a corner and when i floored it the transmission kicked down an i kinda drifted around the corner.. was scary as hell but awsome at the same time lol.
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I was going like 10 mph the other day around a corner and when i floored it the transmission kicked down an i kinda drifted around the corner.. was scary as hell but awsome at the same time lol.
But that's just a lack of traction. It is fun though.
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Yea the *** of my truck dont weigh ****...
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