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eh...someone needs to hit the strip to end this...
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all i care about is that i beat my friends s-10 zr2.
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i doubt it was your truck who beat the other truck.....the other guy just didn't know how to drive.......

like John said above, "there is NO replacement for displacement".....no chance in heck that a 4.0 got beat by your 3.0 unless the driver of the 4.0 didn't have a clue....

the 4.0 has almost 100 more stock horsepower than a 3.0.....and even a heavily modified 3.0 doesn't meet what a stock 4.0 puts out.....
That makes no sense... I can run off and leave a reg cab 4.6 f 150 there slow.. And heavy but has alot bigger engine than me.. But still dont have a chance. Displacement and horsepower dosent meen u will win..
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my 3.0L OHV STOCK had 150hp (my gen had 150 not 148) and 185tq, your 4.0L OHV has 160hp/225tq---> where are you gettin 100 from?

The 4.0L SOHC has 207.. the 3.0L has 150.. hmmm 100??
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dude, a 4.0L OHV- YES, ive stomped one, and it was JUST like mine (a red 2000, but it was an automatic) You talk like that motor is a supercar engine lmao- who cares, they'd both get stomped now- with my GTI
I stomped a newer late 90s to 2000 year GTI, not the new body style GTI. It had atleast exhaust and a loud *** show off valve (dunno if anything else just from what I saw and heard).... Doesnt mean yours isnt modded and stupid fast, but that one got eaten.

OHV is only 160hp 225tq... While that is alot of torque it makes that to soon to be a racer. SOHC is set up more like a car engine with 207hp and 238hp but it gets its power much later. Here in this pic I found it shows the weak torque that a OHV has.

OHV is a slow turd compared to the SOHC IMO.


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90's GTI's didnt have a turbo option, just a lame 115hp I-4 and a 174hp VR6.... my car has 180hp.. 0-60 in ~7s (automatic)

The pre-02 GTI 1.8T only had 150hp so it was slower.. I've played around with a manual TC and passed it enough to get in front and make my turn :)
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I tbink the OHV 4.0L would fall on it face when you race it, sure it has a lot more torque but I'm sure it still makes closer to that of the 3.0L when you get to 5,000RPMS. I can see how the 4.0L would seem faster as it has more torque off the line but it wouldn't have the same power when you race it. i think that the guys with a 4.0L OHV should get a video camera out and get a 0-60 or 0-70 or something and post it up. We can count the seconds and compare them to that of a 3.0L of an equal standpoint. Its not the best way but with everyone all over the place its going to be an easy way to make it work.
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90's GTI's didnt have a turbo option, just a lame 115hp I-4 and a 174hp VR6.... my car has 180hp.. 0-60 in ~7s (automatic)

The pre-02 GTI 1.8T only had 150hp so it was slower.. I've played around with a manual TC and passed it enough to get in front and make my turn :)
Oh well it was newer I think an early 00's but I dunno much about VWs other then my friends Jetta in WOT will go to 6000RPMs in first only to get to 30mph exactly.

My truck stock goes 0-60 in ~7 seconds, and I handed this guys *** to him so it must have been the 150hp verison. Id still like a shot at yours
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I tbink the OHV 4.0L would fall on it face when you race it, sure it has a lot more torque but I'm sure it still makes closer to that of the 3.0L when you get to 5,000RPMS. I can see how the 4.0L would seem faster as it has more torque off the line but it wouldn't have the same power when you race it. i think that the guys with a 4.0L OHV should get a video camera out and get a 0-60 or 0-70 or something and post it up. We can count the seconds and compare them to that of a 3.0L of an equal standpoint. Its not the best way but with everyone all over the place its going to be an easy way to make it work.
Will do soon. And BEFORE I lift.
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I think this thread is funny. I myself own 2 Rangers, 1 04 Ranger Edge with the 3.slow & 5 speed & 1 05 FX4 auto. The only time the race would be close is off the line but after about 30 mph it would be all FX4 4.0.

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0-70 in a 4.0 OHV is uploading.
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ok well post it up when you get it on there because I want to see it.
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I'll take on a 3.0
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Hmm!!!

2000 3.0L : 150 hp @ 4750 rpm - 190 tq @ 3650 rpm
2000 4.0L : 160 hp @ 4200 rpm - 225 tq @ 2750 rpm

Some food for thought...
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That's an OHV not a SOHC......bring it on

look at all the 3.0 guys getting defensive lmao. don't be hatin!
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Its not impossible for the 3.0 to beat the 4.0, but the 4 would have to be stock and the 3 HEAVILY moded. that is assuming of course that the bodies are the same on the trucks. if the 3.0 isnt moded- NO WAY!!! its simple physics- 2 trucks, same weight, one has 150 hp, the other 200. which one wins?!? the one with more power. NO QUESTION.
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ok well post it up when you get it on there because I want to see it.
0-80, 4.0 OHV

I did not put it to the floor until 15 mph because of some loose random gravel on the pavement where i started out at.

Can we get somebody to do the same with a stock 3.0? Auto? regular cab?

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u guys arnt thinking about weight... every 100 pounds is supposebly 10 hp... Im driving a single cab 2wd weighs 3000 pounds. vs a 4wd, 16 inch wheels, 30 inch tires, 4wd, ext cab, brush guard all that weighs alot.. now i got maybe 170 hp with everything i got on it. Hes got 205. His truck was a 02 ish model the sohc 4.0. Still beat im by a couple cars. I test drove a 2000 4.0 the other day it didnt impress me at all. stomped it at 30 when it kicked down to first didnt push me in the seat at all.. U guys hype the 4.0 up to much. I like my little engine does good for what it is. built alot more solid than the 4.0 .
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u guys arnt thinking about weight... every 100 pounds is supposebly 10 hp.
a 4.0 doesn't weight but maybe 30# more than a 3.0.....not much different there pedro!...have you not read what was said above? TRUCK FOR TRUCK and DRIVER FOR DRIVER....SAME TRUCK DIFFERENT ENGINE and compareable driver abilities......the 4.0 will come out on top every time

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built alot more solid than the 4.0 .
are you serious that you think a 3.0 is built more solid than a 4.0 you are on some serious dope.....
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can we say blown headgaskets... blown intake manifold gaskets... <---OHV

btw maurice, you need to specifiy which 4.0L you are talking about- saying "4.0" is very general.
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2000 3.0L : 150 hp @ 4750 rpm - 190 tq @ 3650 rpm
2000 4.0L : 160 hp @ 4200 rpm - 225 tq @ 2750 rpm

Some food for thought...
true, but that was a redesigned 3.0 compared to a 4.0 that had been around for years.....

2004 3.0:
HP = 154 @ 5200 rpm
TQ = 180 @ 3900 rpm

2004 4.0:
HP = 207 @ 5250 rpm
TQ = 238 @ 3000 rpm

that is a newer 3.0 vs. an aging 4.0 right there..........you would be lucky to get 53 HP/58 TQ out of a modified 3.0....with bolt on parts......now yes you can get into major custom internals.....

or how about this:

1997 3.0:
HP = 147 @ 5000 rpm
TQ = 162 @ 3250 rpm

1997 4.0:
HP = 160 @ 4200 rpm
TQ = 225 @ 2800 rpm

now with a 1997, you probably will get the 13 HP to equal the 4.0, but no way you will make up the 63 TQ.......

the torque is what wins the race.......not HP....

here is my source for engine #'s.... http://www.therangerstation.com/tech...e_Ratings.html
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I posted a vid of my 4.0 above... Any 3.0 guys have comments? How comparably does a 3.0 accelerate.?
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can we say blown headgaskets... blown intake manifold gaskets... <---OHV

btw maurice, you need to specifiy which 4.0L you are talking about- saying "4.0" is very general.
blowing an intake gasket is the only downfall to the 4.0 OHV, but it is a super easy fix that can be done in less than 1/2 hour.........blown headgaskets happen more often on the 3.0's than a 4.0 (all)..........

with what someone will spend on the 3.0 to make it have close to the same #'s as a 4.0 (all), i can spend on my 4.0 and have almost 275 HP.....i would guess-ta-mate that my truck now with what i have done to it is running around 230 HP.....and i still have headers, cam, intake, and throttle body that are bolt on parts.....and if i want to go farther, i can get a stroker kit to bore my block out to a 4.5L.......which i would think would put the 4.0 over 300 HP...
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i dont kno if anyone has mentioned this, but u have to take in account- the hp at the wheels... ya the 4.0 is puttin 207 out but that's at the flywheel, deff not to the wheels-the 3.0 is puttin somewhere around the 150 range at the flywheel, but 120-130ish hp at the wheel it's self. just my 2cents lol
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i dont kno if anyone has mentioned this, but u have to take in account- the hp at the wheels... ya the 4.0 is puttin 207 out but that's at the flywheel, deff not to the wheels-the 3.0 is puttin somewhere around the 150 range at the flywheel, but 120-130ish hp at the wheel it's self. just my 2cents lol
in same trucks (comparason like: 3.0 4x4 extended cab vs. 4.0 4x4 extended cab) the HP/TQ loss is the same......since they have the same tranny, transfercase, and driveshaft length in the 3.0 and 4.0...driveline loss would be the same for both engines in compareable trucks, wouldn't matter..
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