Crank, No Start Condition
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Ok Ron -
I shot some Ether up in the intake and it spits, and backfires through the intake. So I am flubbered.
The next thing I will do is shove a light to see if it is getting spark. I did do a test taking a screwdriver and holding it against the firewall. Is there a way to reset the PCM completely?
I shot some Ether up in the intake and it spits, and backfires through the intake. So I am flubbered.
The next thing I will do is shove a light to see if it is getting spark. I did do a test taking a screwdriver and holding it against the firewall. Is there a way to reset the PCM completely?
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Okay so I got her to fire she runs a little bit and then she dies, and then she gives me a P0122, p0176, and a p0452, which I think are the wires the red and the pink that are underneath the truck from the c-309 connector that I deleted. So what I'm going to have to do is hook up the wires and then retest.
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P0122 Throttle/Petal Position Sensor/Switch A Circuit Low Input
P0176 Fuel Composition Sensor Circuit Malfunction
P0452 Evaporative Emission Control System Pressure Sensor Low Input
P0452 won't effect engine operation, and most like from not have gas cap on
P0176 only applies to Flex Fuel engines, and shouldn't cause stalling
P0122.............was TPS ever unplugged when you turned on the key?
If so it would set that code
Clear all codes
And try to find out why its stalling, if possible get a fuel pressure gauge to see if you are losing pressure after start up
Or put a Test Light or Volt meter on inertia switch to make sure it has 12volts after engine starts up, it should, if no 12 volts then engine will stall
P0176 Fuel Composition Sensor Circuit Malfunction
P0452 Evaporative Emission Control System Pressure Sensor Low Input
P0452 won't effect engine operation, and most like from not have gas cap on
P0176 only applies to Flex Fuel engines, and shouldn't cause stalling
P0122.............was TPS ever unplugged when you turned on the key?
If so it would set that code
Clear all codes
And try to find out why its stalling, if possible get a fuel pressure gauge to see if you are losing pressure after start up
Or put a Test Light or Volt meter on inertia switch to make sure it has 12volts after engine starts up, it should, if no 12 volts then engine will stall
#33
Well cleared the codes.
Engine wants to try to start but never gets there. The fuel shoots out at 65 PSI with the new fuel pump installed, and I am getting spark. Replaced the MAF sensor - no change.
Got Gas.
Gor Spark.
Air seems OK.
New Crankshaft Position Sensor.
Campshaft position sensor is in from other engine.
Wiring Harness is now complete deleting the C309 Connector.
New Battery in.
50/50 test gets her started - she runs rough then dies.
When the engine turns over with the starter engaged it is firing - but it wont stay lit. What am I missing here? A Throttle Position Sensor?
New working engine is in.
Engine wants to try to start but never gets there. The fuel shoots out at 65 PSI with the new fuel pump installed, and I am getting spark. Replaced the MAF sensor - no change.
Got Gas.
Gor Spark.
Air seems OK.
New Crankshaft Position Sensor.
Campshaft position sensor is in from other engine.
Wiring Harness is now complete deleting the C309 Connector.
New Battery in.
50/50 test gets her started - she runs rough then dies.
When the engine turns over with the starter engaged it is firing - but it wont stay lit. What am I missing here? A Throttle Position Sensor?
New working engine is in.
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Yeah - I didn't see it cause I didn't hook that up or take it off.
So I went wire for wire in replacing the connector. I did the one side - probably got to do the other.
The Flex Fuel Comaritor is underneath. Checked for voltage - got good 11 volts. Was still acting up so I beat on it with a wrench. Now to figure out why the temp guage says 50% warm and the Oil pressure says none. Once I replace that flex fuel comparitor - it's a new truck - (almost)
This is probably the worst case scenerio for Rangers.
So I went wire for wire in replacing the connector. I did the one side - probably got to do the other.
The Flex Fuel Comaritor is underneath. Checked for voltage - got good 11 volts. Was still acting up so I beat on it with a wrench. Now to figure out why the temp guage says 50% warm and the Oil pressure says none. Once I replace that flex fuel comparitor - it's a new truck - (almost)
This is probably the worst case scenerio for Rangers.
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3.0l Oil pressure switch is behind passenger side head on the block next to bell housing, its wire probably goes thru the connector
If you pull off the connector from the oil pressure switch and ground its 1 wire, or jumper the 2 wires, then turn on the key the gauge should show normal pressure, IF..............wiring is OK
If it does show pressure then replace oil pressure switch, its bad
If you pull off the connector from the oil pressure switch and ground its 1 wire, or jumper the 2 wires, then turn on the key the gauge should show normal pressure, IF..............wiring is OK
If it does show pressure then replace oil pressure switch, its bad
#42
Alright.
Replaced the Flex Fuel Comparitor - truck wants to run - but it seems something don't like it.
So - I am rewiring the other side of the connector with a new connector.
With the new(er) flex fuel comparitor - it still tries to start - but will run then she dies. No smoke out the rear - runs like she is getting the crap beat out of her by Mike Tyson. At least it spits and sputters.
So the boy came home from college. Happy to have him there working on it - but I am used to having food in the fridge. Not no more. So while he was sitting in the truck, I took engine starting fluid and put it down it's throat, had him start it. And she ran, and ran, and ran, and ran until out of fuel.
This is probably why I said "We need to replace the other end of that connector." For some reason there seems to be some difficulty getting fuel into the cylendars with the recently cleaned and tested injectors in it. So I am thinking it is that connector from above doing a bang up job.
So with that - What should I check at the next step if that does not seem to fix the issue? It litterally is a new truck.
Replaced the Flex Fuel Comparitor - truck wants to run - but it seems something don't like it.
So - I am rewiring the other side of the connector with a new connector.
With the new(er) flex fuel comparitor - it still tries to start - but will run then she dies. No smoke out the rear - runs like she is getting the crap beat out of her by Mike Tyson. At least it spits and sputters.
So the boy came home from college. Happy to have him there working on it - but I am used to having food in the fridge. Not no more. So while he was sitting in the truck, I took engine starting fluid and put it down it's throat, had him start it. And she ran, and ran, and ran, and ran until out of fuel.
This is probably why I said "We need to replace the other end of that connector." For some reason there seems to be some difficulty getting fuel into the cylendars with the recently cleaned and tested injectors in it. So I am thinking it is that connector from above doing a bang up job.
So with that - What should I check at the next step if that does not seem to fix the issue? It litterally is a new truck.
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I did replace the oil pressure sensor. It seemed to be bad - now the oil pressure jumps as soon as attempting to crank.
I have to take the boy to the bone yard and fish out a few bolts - while I am there - should I attempt to shop for anything else that you might think needs replacing? I did find a Aerostar with that engine in it there - so I might have some luck with some additional parts.
I have to take the boy to the bone yard and fish out a few bolts - while I am there - should I attempt to shop for anything else that you might think needs replacing? I did find a Aerostar with that engine in it there - so I might have some luck with some additional parts.
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Check that you have fuel pressure at the test port on engine, should be 30psi, like air in a tire, in the fuel rail
Cycle key on and off a few time, if no, or very little, pressure
Each injector should have 12volts with key on, the computer grounds each injector to open it, but its only grounded for 100milliseconds so only way to test if computer is grounding an injector is with a NOID Light
The crank sensor and computer are working because you have spark, i.e. engine starts and runs with 50/50 test, adding fuel manually
Cycle key on and off a few time, if no, or very little, pressure
Each injector should have 12volts with key on, the computer grounds each injector to open it, but its only grounded for 100milliseconds so only way to test if computer is grounding an injector is with a NOID Light
The crank sensor and computer are working because you have spark, i.e. engine starts and runs with 50/50 test, adding fuel manually
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