Cylinder 3 and 4 misfire
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Cylinder 3 and 4 misfire
I have replaced all plugs, wires, and the coil pack. I've done a compression test on 3 and replaced the injector. The fuel pressure at the rail is right at 55psi which is where it should be for the flex fuel v6. I did a vacuum test, its a little low at 14 inches but i dont believe thats enough to cause a dead miss on 2 cylinders. IAC seems fine, checked it by unplugging it while running. Started running much worse and then engine died. Cleaned EGR and checked it by applying a vacuum to it and watching to see if it opened, seemed to open and close fine. Checked MAF sensor by reading airflow from the OBD2, it reads within range at all rpms so I believe it is alright. Thought about possibly a backpressure issue so i took off the cats with no change. Still have a completely dead miss on 3 and 4. My truck has nearly no acceleration, which i assume is from the fact it is only running on 67% power. No clue whats causing the misses, any ideas would be very appreciated.
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31' elevation, you should have 19 - 20 inches vacuum at that elevation, but the 2 cylinders not firing may cause the low vacuum.
3 and 4 use the same coil, something is causing that coil not to fire, one of the 4 power/control wires could be broke.
31' elevation, you should have 19 - 20 inches vacuum at that elevation, but the 2 cylinders not firing may cause the low vacuum.
3 and 4 use the same coil, something is causing that coil not to fire, one of the 4 power/control wires could be broke.
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14" of vacuum is VERY LOW at any elevation, lol, you have bad compression or clogged exhaust..........or a bad vacuum gauge, lol
1999 3.0l Vulcan engine runs 9.3:1 compression ratio so expected static compression would be 160-165psi
You tested one cylinder, what was it?
Under 120psi would cause running misfire, static compression(cranking) is 40% higher than running compression
Better to remove all spark plugs and then test all 6 cylinders at one time, that will give you the value of a compression test and average
Testing one cylinder doesn't tell you much unless it comes up as 0psi or close to 0psi, lol
"Lean" codes are caused by misfires not the other way around, just FYI
If an engine is pinging/knocking then its actually running lean
Lean and Rich codes don't mean engine is "running" Lean or Rich they reference computers calculated air/fuel mix being lean or rich so computer has had to adjust its calculations
O2 sensors only see Oxygen, not fuel, high oxygen is lean, low oxygen is rich
If a cylinder misfires no oxygen is used/burned up, so O2 sees high oxygen, computer sets lean code
1999 3.0l Vulcan engine runs 9.3:1 compression ratio so expected static compression would be 160-165psi
You tested one cylinder, what was it?
Under 120psi would cause running misfire, static compression(cranking) is 40% higher than running compression
Better to remove all spark plugs and then test all 6 cylinders at one time, that will give you the value of a compression test and average
Testing one cylinder doesn't tell you much unless it comes up as 0psi or close to 0psi, lol
"Lean" codes are caused by misfires not the other way around, just FYI
If an engine is pinging/knocking then its actually running lean
Lean and Rich codes don't mean engine is "running" Lean or Rich they reference computers calculated air/fuel mix being lean or rich so computer has had to adjust its calculations
O2 sensors only see Oxygen, not fuel, high oxygen is lean, low oxygen is rich
If a cylinder misfires no oxygen is used/burned up, so O2 sees high oxygen, computer sets lean code
Last edited by RonD; 06-11-2021 at 01:53 PM.
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14" of vacuum is VERY LOW at any elevation, lol, you have bad compression or clogged exhaust..........or a bad vacuum gauge, lol
1999 3.0l Vulcan engine runs 9.3:1 compression ratio so expected static compression would be 160-165psi
You tested one cylinder, what was it?
Under 120psi would cause running misfire, static compression(cranking) is 40% higher than running compression
Better to remove all spark plugs and then test all 6 cylinders at one time, that will give you the value of a compression test and average
Testing one cylinder doesn't tell you much unless it comes up as 0psi or close to 0psi, lol
"Lean" codes are caused by misfires not the other way around, just FYI
If an engine is pinging/knocking then its actually running lean
Lean and Rich codes don't mean engine is "running" Lean or Rich they reference computers calculated air/fuel mix being lean or rich so computer has had to adjust its calculations
O2 sensors only see Oxygen, not fuel, high oxygen is lean, low oxygen is rich
If a cylinder misfires no oxygen is used/burned up, so O2 sees high oxygen, computer sets lean code
1999 3.0l Vulcan engine runs 9.3:1 compression ratio so expected static compression would be 160-165psi
You tested one cylinder, what was it?
Under 120psi would cause running misfire, static compression(cranking) is 40% higher than running compression
Better to remove all spark plugs and then test all 6 cylinders at one time, that will give you the value of a compression test and average
Testing one cylinder doesn't tell you much unless it comes up as 0psi or close to 0psi, lol
"Lean" codes are caused by misfires not the other way around, just FYI
If an engine is pinging/knocking then its actually running lean
Lean and Rich codes don't mean engine is "running" Lean or Rich they reference computers calculated air/fuel mix being lean or rich so computer has had to adjust its calculations
O2 sensors only see Oxygen, not fuel, high oxygen is lean, low oxygen is rich
If a cylinder misfires no oxygen is used/burned up, so O2 sees high oxygen, computer sets lean code
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Compression will ALWAYS GO UP when you add oil to a cylinder, so maybe you misread that part
How much it goes up can tell you if its rings or valves that are leaking
145psi to 150psi is a small jump so not rings, if it went up to 165psi then it would be rings
130psi to 150psi would be a ring issue
130psi to 140psi would be leaking valves or head gasket, not rings
75psi is a burnt exhaust valve, not rings
130psi is also likely to be valve and not head gasket
But your over all compression is low for the 3.0l Vulcan, but new gauge may not be calibrated
How much it goes up can tell you if its rings or valves that are leaking
145psi to 150psi is a small jump so not rings, if it went up to 165psi then it would be rings
130psi to 150psi would be a ring issue
130psi to 140psi would be leaking valves or head gasket, not rings
75psi is a burnt exhaust valve, not rings
130psi is also likely to be valve and not head gasket
But your over all compression is low for the 3.0l Vulcan, but new gauge may not be calibrated
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