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dif. between 01 3.0 and 04 3.0

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Old Aug 24, 2006
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dif. between 01 3.0 and 04 3.0

i was the owner of a 2001 edge 3.0 2wd with 3:73 gears. after totalling it a week ago today. https://www.ranger-forums.com/forum2...ad.php?t=27034 i am now challenged with the daunting task of finding another truck within my price range. while looking, i drove a 2004 ranger edge 3.0 2wd 5 speed. same as mine with the exception of this one being an extended cab. my question is whether or not there is any engine tweaks from 01 to 04. i can easily tell the 04 would pull a lot better than my 01 would. it felt even more peppy in 3rd. are these the same motors or are there some adjustments?
 
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Old Aug 24, 2006
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Nothing.
 
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maybe the 2004 ranger you drove had 4.10 gearing
 
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Old Aug 24, 2006
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well that's what i don't understand. it allegedly has 3:73 gears also. so i have no clue. i did notice a plastic cover over the manifold on the 04, whereas on the 01 it is just ceramic showing. i know that makes no dif. to the motor though
 
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'04+ have less horsepower.. i believe 150-152hp for the 98-03ish 3.0L's then the hp went down to 148 in 04.. They changed to a composite intake manifold in 2002, but other than that, nothing really.
 
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the hp did change minimally during those years... as far as the rear on the truck you are looking at there is a axle code on the vin sticker on the doorjamb that will tell you what you have... the code sheet can be found here
http://www.therangerstation.com/tech_library/Axles.html
 
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#1 advice do not ever ever buy another 3.0L stick with 4.0L's you will be so much happier
 
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#1 advice do not ever ever buy another 3.0L stick with 4.0L's you will be so much happier
i love my 3.0 stick... but i drive slow even when i drive fast cars so im not the best judge
 
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i love my 3.0 stick... but i drive slow even when i drive fast cars so im not the best judge
BLA put me in a fast car or not even a fast car and i turn into a kind on speed going insane i cant do that...thats another reason i tend to never care about MPG lol...
 
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hell you dont even have to drive fast to get a fast car to.. go fast :P
 
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yea id go with the 4.0 if all possible, i would have but in my price range it was only the 4.0 ohv and i dont have that much money to throw around on filling up my tank often...
 
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There is a diffrence it has to do with the MAF I dont know what it is but they make difrent CAI for them.
 
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some 3.0's came without a egr system too... i think the 04 has them and the 01 didnt... no idea why
 
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I believe the MAF is now part of the airbox instead of after the airbox.
 
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Old Aug 25, 2006
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there is a difference. The 2001-2003s have 148hp and 2004+ have 154hp. But to have it pull that much harder the 04 must of had 4.10s... honostly tho, for gods sakes get a 4.0
 
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Old Aug 25, 2006
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Some difference:

New calibrations.
The 2001 had the restrictive aluminum intake manifold and the later models have a plastic one that is smooth and almost "ported and polished" from the factory.

I have an '02 that was stock at one time, lol. I got 4.10 gears in it and it was worth it. I made a big difference.

The 3.0 is still the most long-lived engine of the two. If you don't need the power and you are going to keep the truck the 3.0 will probably last longer with less maintenance.
 
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Originally Posted by Mr. Special
there is a difference. The 2001-2003s have 148hp and 2004+ have 154hp. But to have it pull that much harder the 04 must of had 4.10s... honostly tho, for gods sakes get a 4.0
Other way around..
 
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Old Aug 25, 2006
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Ahh i see. Well i am certain that my 01 3.0 had an egr seeing as the egr valve had to be replaaced twice over the two years i had the truck. i would love to have a 4.0. only problem is finding one like i want. ford didn't make many 4.0's how i want mine to be. i want anywhere from a 99-04 4.0 ohv or sohc, 5spd 2wd. yeah, extended cab would be nice too. all about the money
 
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Originally Posted by bwester04
Other way around..
Wrong

http://www.internetautoguide.com/car...ger/index.html

like i said the 04+ have a massive 6 more HP lol
 
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Originally Posted by Mr. Special
Wrong

http://www.internetautoguide.com/car...ger/index.html

like i said the 04+ have a massive 6 more HP lol
Wrong again 04+ has 148 while the 01-03 have 154. Trust me i've owned both and I was like wtf why less hp lol.

http://www.fordvehicles.com/trucks/r...res/specs/#per
 
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Old Aug 26, 2006
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Looks like the 04+ lost a bit of torque as well.. last i read my 2000 FFV 3.0L was like 152hp/185lb-ft, i thought that '02+ composite intake manifold was 'less restrictive..? i guess they played around with the exhaust and intake systems, for the worst.
 
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Old Aug 26, 2006
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mmm i still call bs on all them then... cuz from everysite i'e seen the 03s have 148 and 04s have 154... but honsotly **** it; the 3.0 blows ***** reguardless. and the fact of the matter remains that i would never buy another ranger unless it had the 4.0 in it, [Cleve]keep searching till you find one you can afford
 
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Old Aug 26, 2006
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yeah, that's more than likely what i'll do. the only part i dread is driving a 1986 f150 300ci 4speed with a flat bed to school everyday until then. seeing as i don't have a license at the moment. i'll get it back come thursday when i go to court. it's hard to find a 4.0 supercab 00+ for 9750 or less. oh well. we'll see. i guess i'll just have to see what i can find
 
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Originally Posted by Mr. Special
mmm i still call bs on all them then... cuz from everysite i'e seen the 03s have 148 and 04s have 154... but honsotly **** it; the 3.0 blows ***** reguardless. and the fact of the matter remains that i would never buy another ranger unless it had the 4.0 in it, [Cleve]keep searching till you find one you can afford
I posted from fords actual site which shows the 07 with 148hp which has been the same since 04.

I love my little 3.0 it does its job and still gets decent gas mileage(I use it to deliver pizza's)

Did you ever get a programmer for yours? If not it would be well worth it.
 
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