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dif. between 01 3.0 and 04 3.0

i was the owner of a 2001 edge 3.0 2wd with 3:73 gears. after totalling it a week ago today. https://www.ranger-forums.com/forum2...ad.php?t=27034 i am now challenged with the daunting task of finding another truck within my price range. while looking, i drove a 2004 ranger edge 3.0 2wd 5 speed. same as mine with the exception of this one being an extended cab. my question is whether or not there is any engine tweaks from 01 to 04. i can easily tell the 04 would pull a lot better than my 01 would. it felt even more peppy in 3rd. are these the same motors or are there some adjustments?
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Nothing.
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maybe the 2004 ranger you drove had 4.10 gearing
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well that's what i don't understand. it allegedly has 3:73 gears also. so i have no clue. i did notice a plastic cover over the manifold on the 04, whereas on the 01 it is just ceramic showing. i know that makes no dif. to the motor though
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'04+ have less horsepower.. i believe 150-152hp for the 98-03ish 3.0L's then the hp went down to 148 in 04.. They changed to a composite intake manifold in 2002, but other than that, nothing really.
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the hp did change minimally during those years... as far as the rear on the truck you are looking at there is a axle code on the vin sticker on the doorjamb that will tell you what you have... the code sheet can be found here
http://www.therangerstation.com/tech_library/Axles.html
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#1 advice do not ever ever buy another 3.0L stick with 4.0L's you will be so much happier
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#1 advice do not ever ever buy another 3.0L stick with 4.0L's you will be so much happier
i love my 3.0 stick... but i drive slow even when i drive fast cars so im not the best judge
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i love my 3.0 stick... but i drive slow even when i drive fast cars so im not the best judge
BLA put me in a fast car or not even a fast car and i turn into a kind on speed going insane i cant do that...thats another reason i tend to never care about MPG lol...
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hell you dont even have to drive fast to get a fast car to.. go fast :P
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yea id go with the 4.0 if all possible, i would have but in my price range it was only the 4.0 ohv and i dont have that much money to throw around on filling up my tank often...
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There is a diffrence it has to do with the MAF I dont know what it is but they make difrent CAI for them.
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some 3.0's came without a egr system too... i think the 04 has them and the 01 didnt... no idea why
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I believe the MAF is now part of the airbox instead of after the airbox.
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there is a difference. The 2001-2003s have 148hp and 2004+ have 154hp. But to have it pull that much harder the 04 must of had 4.10s... honostly tho, for gods sakes get a 4.0
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Some difference:

New calibrations.
The 2001 had the restrictive aluminum intake manifold and the later models have a plastic one that is smooth and almost "ported and polished" from the factory.

I have an '02 that was stock at one time, lol. I got 4.10 gears in it and it was worth it. I made a big difference.

The 3.0 is still the most long-lived engine of the two. If you don't need the power and you are going to keep the truck the 3.0 will probably last longer with less maintenance.
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there is a difference. The 2001-2003s have 148hp and 2004+ have 154hp. But to have it pull that much harder the 04 must of had 4.10s... honostly tho, for gods sakes get a 4.0
Other way around..
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Ahh i see. Well i am certain that my 01 3.0 had an egr seeing as the egr valve had to be replaaced twice over the two years i had the truck. i would love to have a 4.0. only problem is finding one like i want. ford didn't make many 4.0's how i want mine to be. i want anywhere from a 99-04 4.0 ohv or sohc, 5spd 2wd. yeah, extended cab would be nice too. all about the money
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Other way around..
Wrong

http://www.internetautoguide.com/car...ger/index.html

like i said the 04+ have a massive 6 more HP lol
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Wrong

http://www.internetautoguide.com/car...ger/index.html

like i said the 04+ have a massive 6 more HP lol
Wrong again 04+ has 148 while the 01-03 have 154. Trust me i've owned both and I was like wtf why less hp lol.

http://www.fordvehicles.com/trucks/r...res/specs/#per
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Looks like the 04+ lost a bit of torque as well.. last i read my 2000 FFV 3.0L was like 152hp/185lb-ft, i thought that '02+ composite intake manifold was 'less restrictive..? i guess they played around with the exhaust and intake systems, for the worst.
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mmm i still call bs on all them then... cuz from everysite i'e seen the 03s have 148 and 04s have 154... but honsotly **** it; the 3.0 blows ***** reguardless. and the fact of the matter remains that i would never buy another ranger unless it had the 4.0 in it, [Cleve]keep searching till you find one you can afford
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yeah, that's more than likely what i'll do. the only part i dread is driving a 1986 f150 300ci 4speed with a flat bed to school everyday until then. seeing as i don't have a license at the moment. i'll get it back come thursday when i go to court. it's hard to find a 4.0 supercab 00+ for 9750 or less. oh well. we'll see. i guess i'll just have to see what i can find
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mmm i still call bs on all them then... cuz from everysite i'e seen the 03s have 148 and 04s have 154... but honsotly **** it; the 3.0 blows ***** reguardless. and the fact of the matter remains that i would never buy another ranger unless it had the 4.0 in it, [Cleve]keep searching till you find one you can afford
I posted from fords actual site which shows the 07 with 148hp which has been the same since 04.

I love my little 3.0 it does its job and still gets decent gas mileage(I use it to deliver pizza's)

Did you ever get a programmer for yours? If not it would be well worth it.
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just like John said, the 3.0 will last longer and "if" it does break down it wont cost you boat loads of cash to fix like the 4.0 OHC motor.

i've personaly seen 3.0's with well over 250K on them, one with over 300K.
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